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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Fake Americans Reply with quote

Depths of My Soul wrote:
I was just doing some research on Korea and found the following:

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If you are from a non-North American-speaking country you can expect to be politely asked to use a North American accent or told to lie to your students to tell them you are American or just not hired for a particular job.


I'm just wondering how true this is, and if any non North-American has ever been asked to do this at any time.
/wiki/Facts_about_the_ESL_industry_in_Korea[/url]


I am a Belgian who is legally teaching English in Korea, I have somewhat of a strong Germanic accent, but it doesn't seem to be bothering anybody.
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MattAwesome



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiberish wrote:
I have been asked to pronounce things the American style before. I rolled with it, felt a little strange on the tongue though. However I have faught with K-teachers over pronunication. They had an American teacher before but he had lazy pronunication and said things like wa'd'er hospi'd'ol etc. Then when I said it correctly she asked me to say it his way. Because he was American, hence he was right and I was wrong. = /


you are an idiot. thats how most americans pronounce t's. the brits always enunciate their t's. thats one of the biggest differences in our pronunciation. its different. not lazy. now jump in front of a bus.
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mistermasan



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

let us not forget that many "americanisms" are fossilized versions of the way british english used to be. e.g.- the extra vowel in many british spellings. the lancet doesn't use "feotus" but rather "fetus". why? because "fetus" is the correct spelling. circa mid-1850's the brits got on a "french kick" and started inserting extra vowels to be more like their cross channel brethren.

so...americans have been keeping english pure since 1776. Cool
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My accent has never been criticized or questioned in all the time I've been here. Some words like 'doctor', 'water', 'grass' cause a tiny but of confusion initially, but the students are able to adjust quite quickly.
If I was ever asked to change my accent to sound more American, I'd ask them to change their behaviour to be more like the Japanese.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:
AsiaESLbound wrote:

I never expected American accents to be preferred as American accent is more difficult to listen to than British accents and it seems to be the British accent is more international and worldly. Seems that the British speaking also travel much more so than Americans. Koreans are silly.


Rolling Eyes What an absolute[Mod Edit]. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Whatever accent you speak with, it would undoubtedly be hard to listen to whatever sounds your 2 brain cells attempt to form.


Yet another reason I can't stand Brits.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Fake Americans Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
Depths of My Soul wrote:
I was just doing some research on Korea and found the following:

Quote:
If you are from a non-North American-speaking country you can expect to be politely asked to use a North American accent or told to lie to your students to tell them you are American or just not hired for a particular job.


I'm just wondering how true this is, and if any non North-American has ever been asked to do this at any time.
/wiki/Facts_about_the_ESL_industry_in_Korea[/url]


I am a Belgian who is legally teaching English in Korea, I have somewhat of a strong Germanic accent, but it doesn't seem to be bothering anybody.


That's because you are married to a Korean national. You wouldn't qualify for the basic teaching visa because you did not grow up in an English-speaking country.
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chellovek



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
Bloopity Bloop wrote:
AsiaESLbound wrote:

I never expected American accents to be preferred as American accent is more difficult to listen to than British accents and it seems to be the British accent is more international and worldly. Seems that the British speaking also travel much more so than Americans. Koreans are silly.


Rolling Eyes What an absolute[Mod Edit]. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Whatever accent you speak with, it would undoubtedly be hard to listen to whatever sounds your 2 brain cells attempt to form.


Yet another reason I can't stand Brits.


Woah steady on there, old bean. Not everyone takes such a high-handed view of American accents.
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dumpring



Joined: 06 Apr 2010
Location: Auckland, NZ

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a pretty mild British accent (Sussex) and the kids seem fine with it. The only problem is actually me getting confused with their spelling (things like tyre/tire and cheque/check) I kept correcting them till I realise they'd just learnt the American spelling of words.
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chellovek wrote:
Yaya wrote:
Bloopity Bloop wrote:
AsiaESLbound wrote:

I never expected American accents to be preferred as American accent is more difficult to listen to than British accents and it seems to be the British accent is more international and worldly. Seems that the British speaking also travel much more so than Americans. Koreans are silly.


Rolling Eyes What an absolute[Mod Edit]. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Whatever accent you speak with, it would undoubtedly be hard to listen to whatever sounds your 2 brain cells attempt to form.


Yet another reason I can't stand Brits.


Woah steady on there, old bean. Not everyone takes such a high-handed view of American accents.


Yaya has displayed, time and time again, absurd reasons for hating British people on this board. He clearly has many issues.
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Depths of My Soul



Joined: 04 Apr 2010
Location: In The Sun

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

morrisonhotel wrote:


Yaya has displayed, time and time again, absurd reasons for hating British people on this board. He clearly has many issues.


Perhaps he' s fan of Mel Gibson? Wink
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air76



Joined: 13 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The funny thing about some British people getting so uptight about calling their pronunciation "the right" one, or whatever, is that they only seem to do it to Americans. I've never heard anyone complain about incorrect pronunciation in Australia, New Zealand, or South Africa...while their accents share some of these "correct" British pronunciations, there are plenty of words that they pronounce just as differently as Americans do, albeit different words in different fashions.

If we got into a time machine and went back 150 years neither of our accents would sound anything like the accents of the 1850's, in either country.

To their credit, the Spanish are MUCH MUCH more anal about this issue than the English. I say "if you don't want your language changed then don't colonize."....sorry, colonise.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:
AsiaESLbound wrote:

I never expected American accents to be preferred as American accent is more difficult to listen to than British accents and it seems to be the British accent is more international and worldly. Seems that the British speaking also travel much more so than Americans. Koreans are silly.


Rolling Eyes What an absolute[Mod Edit]. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


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KubelHomer



Joined: 16 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiberish wrote:
...I have faught...


You're such a moron.
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Lunar Groove Gardener



Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Location: 1987 Subaru

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soooo many wonderful English language accents, including various second language speakers. It makes me wonder how my Spanish, German or Korean
accents sound to natives; I'll never know. All of the materials that I have used for the past several years have had accents from all origins including African, Caribbean, New York , Australian etc. That is in video and on audio listening exercises. Nothing mono-cultural about it, but some haggies will advertise for
N.Americans....soooooo don't work for them. Some also ask for breasteses and check ethnicity. I've met every color, accent and type teaching in the Hermit Kingdom.

If you speak clearly, people ought to be able to understand what you are saying. If they cannot, you'll have to slow it down, clean it up and enunciate
EFL teacher style.

Rock on.
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davochest



Joined: 21 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first director here said i had to teach with an American accent and I was so offended that I found myself holding myself back from doing something to him that would not only get me fired but jailed. That was seven years ago and have never worked in a hagwon since.
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