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Give Up Your Seat For Old People On The Bus?
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Do you / would you give your seat for an old Korean person on a bus?
Yes (always / almost always) - I respect Korean custom / I am a very kind person.
43%
 43%  [ 30 ]
Yes (sometimes) - It depends on my mood.
7%
 7%  [ 5 ]
Yes (sometimes) - It depends on how old / frail the person looks.
37%
 37%  [ 26 ]
No (It's my seat and I'll sit down if I want to)
7%
 7%  [ 5 ]
No (If I see anyone coming, I act innocent / give a blank stare / avoid eye contact)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
No (If I see anyone coming, I pretend to sleep)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
I never use Korean buses.
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other (Please explain)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 69

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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
Saw this on Facebook this morning and it made me think of this thread.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aWoBeGRcds


Follow up interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jIO5u2MVzs&feature=related

I can sort of identify with him because I used to live in Oakland. Not the best place in the world... I love it, but probably wouldn't choose to live there ever again.

EDIT: OP: I only give up my seat if someone looks like they really need it. Also, I refuse to give it to people who believe they should be absolutely entitled to it. I don't understand why they tend to gravitate towards me when there are tons of younger Koreans completely ignoring them and chatting/texting away. Freakin' useless.
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
However, for some reason, giving seats up to little kids really irks me.


It irks me more when I see Korean kids in the supermarket sitting in their parents trolleys with the groceries. Not little kids/babies, but older, elementary school age kids. I'm kind of surprised by my own reaction to this. Am I being too harsh in thinking they are just spoilt, lazy little brats?
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sqrlnutz123



Joined: 15 Jun 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give my seat up to really old people. I'm confused about the cut-off though. If they look 50 or so and perfectly able to stand, I probably won't. I have found that in Korea, people give up their seat less than they did where I'm from in the US.
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Tundra_Creature



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone looks like they really need to sit down (whether they're old or young) I'll offer up a seat, unless I'm truly exausted myself. ^^;;
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always give up my seat on the bus or subway not just to the elderly but to any woman, especially those with children. That's the proper thing to do.

But I agree that this is something I want to do voluntarily. I don't want some guy coming over and demanding my seat. Also the guy should definitely make sure there aren't some slacker young kids around to make them give up their seats.

Some of the more territorial responses on this thread are just weird. This isn't prison, you won't become a mark just because you give up a seat on a subway.

The acquisition of doing an act of kindness exceeds the expense of standing for 15 minutes.

Plus acts like giving up your seat have a way of coming back to you.
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pichon



Joined: 08 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:


Plus acts like giving up your seat have a way of coming back to you.


Amen, nothing more than truuuuuuuee
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sharkey



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride a bus and subway multiple times everyday and I rarely see people give up their seats for older people.
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balzor



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of the times, but not everytime. When I see younger Koreans sitting, I expect them to give up their seat first. I have seen teenagers sit in the elderly sections on the train even when there were no other seats. On the bus, I usually will give up my seat.
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Greekfreak



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always get up for:

The elderly, pregnant women (who invariably have another youngster strapped to their backs already), or 50-something ladies loaded down with way too much crap for a bus.

But the faking sleep is despicable behaviour. I once yanked a middle schooler out of a reserved seat when I saw that some octogenarian (maybe even older) with a back problem got on the bus and the kid looked over and faked like he was sleeping--the bus was full. I swore a blue streak at him in Greek and he got the picture. He skulked off to the back with his near-empty backpack and stood up for the rest of his voyage.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sharkey wrote:
I ride a bus and subway multiple times everyday and I rarely see people give up their seats for older people.


I spend 100,000won+ every month on public transport, and I see it all the time.
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
sharkey wrote:
I ride a bus and subway multiple times everyday and I rarely see people give up their seats for older people.


I spend 100,000won+ every month on public transport, and I see it all the time.


If you're spending that much, you're bound to see a lot of things all the time.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

curiousaboutkorea wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
sharkey wrote:
I ride a bus and subway multiple times everyday and I rarely see people give up their seats for older people.


I spend 100,000won+ every month on public transport, and I see it all the time.


If you're spending that much, you're bound to see a lot of things all the time.


exatly. I take the train/bus at least 5 times per day - I see it all.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta agree with Captain Korea here........I've very very rarely seen a frail old person go without a seat in my 10 years of using Seoul public transport.

Maybe once or twice in 10 years.


However, I've often found myself on crowded subway/buses giving the seat to the old person myself because the locals neglected to do so in good time. Old people usually do get a seat in Korea......but I don't think it's because Koreans are the most polite people in the world. It's like a reluctant obligation.
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greekfreak wrote:
No, it's not I once yanked a middle schooler out of a reserved seat when I saw that some octogenarian (maybe even older) with a back problem got on the bus and the kid looked over and faked like he was sleeping--the bus was full. I swore a blue streak at him in Greek and he got the picture. He skulked off to the back with his near-empty backpack and stood up for the rest of his voyage.


My hero. Rolling Eyes

You've no right to physically remove a child like that. Surely giving up your own seat would've sufficed?
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
Greekfreak wrote:
No, it's not I once yanked a middle schooler out of a reserved seat when I saw that some octogenarian (maybe even older) with a back problem got on the bus and the kid looked over and faked like he was sleeping--the bus was full. I swore a blue streak at him in Greek and he got the picture. He skulked off to the back with his near-empty backpack and stood up for the rest of his voyage.


My hero. Rolling Eyes

You've no right to physically remove a child like that. Surely giving up your own seat would've sufficed?

Are you sure he was sitting?

I'm bothered when I see the elderly/disabled forced to stand, but that only happens when I have no seat to give them.
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