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Do You Think Shopping Is An Illness?
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Do You Think Shopping Is An Illness? Reply with quote

Beyond buying ncessities like food and enough clothes, don't you think shopping is an illness?

I think about the 50 or more t-shirts that I own and too many cds to count. I find myself buying books that I could borrow from my puiblic library for free. Nope, gotta have my own.

The market wants us to buy loads of stuff we don't need. Companies produce "limited editions" of toys, comic books, cds and whatever to encouage us to start collecting things we won't use. "Hey! That might be worth money some day."

Sometimes I find myself buying something for no other reason than to get something new. It's like an addiction.

What are your views on this subject? Are you a shopaholic? Why do you think some people are this way?
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not an illness, but rather a form of entertainment. Lots of people simply enjoy shopping. That's what allows it to become an end in itself for some people.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate shopping (except food shopping which I usually don't mind and sometimes can be fun).

I put off buying things until I end up not needing them. Eg. I kept putting off going shopping for new clothes, and then poof, friends left Seoul and gave away some pretty nice clothes to everyone they knew because they were always buying new stuff and had too much. Now I don't need to go clothes shopping.

The only place I tend to spend unnecessarily is bookstores. I love books. But I try to swap when I can.

Absolutely companies try to get people to buy TONS of stuff they don't need. And most people do, to at least some extent.

To me, it's not about saving money, just about being happy with what I have.
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Girlygirl



Joined: 31 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an illness if it fulfills some kind of instant gratification. Not to mention, if you spend more than what you earn, then you have a problem.
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chellovek



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the extent that some people shop themselves into debt and ruin that could be considered an illness.

On the other hand, I don't really see anything intrinsically wrong in wanting to have a few nice things in life.

Most the stuff I see doesn't appeal, so I don't own tons of stuff.

On the other hand, I am hankering after some Quaker oats for some reason.
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Janny



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: all over the place

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love this subject.

I am NOT a shopper, but at times I do feel that *tingle* when I've made a new purchase, of something I don't actually need (like food) but want (like new boots). But fundamentally, I think everyone gets ripped off paying way too much of their money on overpriced items they don't need. Mostly I'm thinking about clothes, electronics and accessories like bags. So I don't shop that often, to quietly boycott that consumer-driven feeling of "fulfilment".

Why do people do it? In my opinion, shopping for non-essential items (owning the 'latest design') gives people a feeling of power and accomplishment. It's a reward for their work that brought in the money. It comes from the fact that maybe they don't get that actual fulfilment FROM their job. You need SOME kind of payoff. If you hate your job, or are not satisfied / challenged by it...what payoff is there besides buying a new TV etc? 'Instant gratification' is the operative term here.

And then there's those people who have ALOT of money. They don't respect it and just blow it on anything because it's ...there, an ATM machine away. That's a whole other issue. That's boredom.

And then there's parents. You don't see too many of them blowing wads on crap because the money goes to the kids' needs. The fulfilment comes from providing for your children.

Myself, I get so much joy from my job that I don't crave much fulfilment elsewhere.
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carpetdope



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ridiculous! Shopping makes us complete people. Amassing possessions tells the world "I am successful". How else can a person prove that they are better than everyone else other than buying clothes, furniture, media, etc.?

Right?
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the things that I've noticed is that I don't have the same appreciation for the things that I buy compared to when I was a kid. Getting a nice piece of clothing like a sweater or a board game was a big deal.

Today I buy a book, throw it on the shelf and start thinking about the next book I am going to buy.

These days many people don't use things for the whole life cycle of the product. They change their cell phone every year or their computer every 2 -3 years. What's wrong with using something until it konks out? That's the environmentally responsible thing to do.

I partly blame the electronics manufacturers who come out with "a more advanced product" every year. "Hey, you wanna be the cool kid on the block? Buy this!"

The latest gizmo is the I-Pad. I wonder what next year's new and improved gizmo will be? When are people going to wise up and say "Enough! I don't want to play your game any more."
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Janny



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: all over the place

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people won't 'wise up'...it's up to the chosen few (who don't like consumerism) to teach as many children as possible, and set a new example.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Do You Think Shopping Is An Illness? Reply with quote

Dev wrote:
I think about the 50 or more t-shirts that I own and too many cds to count. I find myself buying books that I could borrow from my public library for free.

Shopping is an ADDICTION.

If you find yourself buying things you don't need and later realize you don't really want then it's a disorder in your life.

I used to find shopping FUN, which of course all addicts say, getting a hit from the experience, despite the regrets later.

Personally, I have lost the impulse to shop. It happened the moment my father died. I find myself getting more pleasure from saving than spending now. It's a security issue probably. Whatever the reason, I no longer impulsively spend, though I still have the products of my past shopping (clothes galore, including over a dozen pairs of shoes, CDs and DVDs in the hundreds, more books than I'll ever read in Korea).

I look back on my past shopping as an illness of sorts, at least a runaway passion, not in my best self interest, all things considered. One great thing about living in Korea and not speaking Korean or watching TV is that one experiences NO ADS, no urgings to buy, buy, buy. There is no product I feel I must buy. Life is so much better that way. The only thing I've thought about buying recently is an iPad, and that's because of reading posts here at Dave's! And I'm unlikely to do so.

Life without shopping is indeed worth living. Very Happy
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a random thought... is there any freecycle group in Korea, or its equivalent? I mean a group where everyone just gives things away free. It's a great way to get stuff you need used or get rid of things you have, and with so many people coming and going, it should be pretty useful.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dev wrote:
One of the things that I've noticed is that I don't have the same appreciation for the things that I buy compared to when I was a kid. Getting a nice piece of clothing like a sweater or a board game was a big deal.


I still have that appreciation, but then I spend very little. I get the most gratification from NOT spending money unless it's something I really want/need.

I only bought one thing that isn't food so far this month: a notebook with a penguin on it, 4,000 won. I love that notebook. I spent about an hour looking for a notebook that wasn't full of cutesy Konglish or whatever, so I really appreciated it when I found it.

I'm probably the one with the disorder, really.
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chellovek



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
Dev wrote:
One of the things that I've noticed is that I don't have the same appreciation for the things that I buy compared to when I was a kid. Getting a nice piece of clothing like a sweater or a board game was a big deal.


I still have that appreciation, but then I spend very little. I get the most gratification from NOT spending money unless it's something I really want/need.

I only bought one thing that isn't food so far this month: a notebook with a penguin on it, 4,000 won. I love that notebook. I spent about an hour looking for a notebook that wasn't full of cutesy Konglish or whatever, so I really appreciated it when I found it.

I'm probably the one with the disorder, really.


For a moment I had thought you were going to say that you spent an hour looking at it after you'd purchased it.
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Murakano



Joined: 10 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

argh ebay in terms of online shopping ....used to buy a lot of stuff from there because I could get a "bargain" etc (though I didn't actually end up using most at the end of the day).....was a bit of a mild addiction.
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I think shopping is an illness? No, I don't. An excessive preoccupation with the private affairs of others, however, clearly is.
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