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Eligible for U.S. unemployment after living in Korea?
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thoreau



Joined: 21 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:18 pm    Post subject: Eligible for U.S. unemployment after living in Korea? Reply with quote

I had worked in the U.S. for 5 years prior to coming to Korea. I left my previous job specifically to come to Korea.

When I return to the U.S. will I be eligible for unemployment benefits?
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conrad2



Joined: 05 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. They will contact your previous employer who will say you left the job voluntarily. No government cheese for you.
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d-rail



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

conrad is right.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check with your state eligibility requirements. Every state is different and most of them have online info readily available on google.
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caylia



Joined: 03 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most likely you will not for two reasons. One, like the poster mentioned before about quitting voluntarily. Two, because almost all states use a "trailer" for calculating salary and net compensation to do the unemployment calculation.

For example, in California, if you got laid off on January 1,2010, they will use your earnings for all of 2009 to calculate your payment.

When you get to April 1,2010, they only use the prior 4 quarters. That means you will only have your April 1, 2009 - December 31, 2009 period as a base calculation. Every quarter, the oldest quarter worked drops off. If you have been laid off for a year, you don't qualify - UNLESS YOU WERE PART of the original bailout extension for unemployment. Some people are on their 5th extension.

However, you mention you were gone for a while. The answer is most likely no. You might be able to qualify for food stamps.
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teacherk



Joined: 19 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject: govt benefits Reply with quote

I agree, probably not, but it is worth looking into these days because so much has changed. You should qualify for food stamps when you first get home and have no job.
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air76



Joined: 13 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are never eligible for unemployment when you leave your job voluntarily....or if you are fired and the company can prove you did something wrong worth firing you over. You are only eligible for unemployment if you lose your job and it wasn't your fault.
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WeakRider



Joined: 17 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

air76 wrote:
You are never eligible for unemployment when you leave your job voluntarily....or if you are fired and the company can prove you did something wrong worth firing you over. You are only eligible for unemployment if you lose your job and it wasn't your fault.


That is not necessarily true. When you apply for unemployment, it is up to your former employers to contest your claim. Some companies do not bother contesting claims (other companies contest ALL claims). Furthermore, if you quit due to terrible conditions at your company, you can possibly get unemployment benefits--even if your former employer contests your claim.

Obviously, some of this varies state-by-state, but...
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To qualify, don't you have to have worked for a company that paid into the scheme? Korean schools and companies don't participate in the American unemployment scheme. We are on our own out here away from the wing of our country systems.
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digirl2956



Joined: 01 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going home soon and will know the answer as I will file. I also saw this website. I think you can only file for foodstamps if you have a family but I will check on that also. If your school does not renew your contract then you did not leave your job voluntarily.

http://www.justlanded.com/english/South-Korea/South-Korea-Guide/Jobs/Labor-regulations-social-security
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

digirl2956 wrote:
I am going home soon and will know the answer as I will file. I also saw this website. I think you can only file for foodstamps if you have a family but I will check on that also. If your school does not renew your contract then you did not leave your job voluntarily.

http://www.justlanded.com/english/South-Korea/South-Korea-Guide/Jobs/Labor-regulations-social-security


Why not... get a job? You weren't a parasite in Korea, were you?

Unemployment, foodstamps, welfare... these are safety nets, not willing destinations. By willingly throwing yourself upon the mercy of the people you are using up resources that could be used by people who actually need it.

You two don't have any moral qualms using emergency services so loosely?
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digirl2956



Joined: 01 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your comment shows your mentality...and sad to say is alot of what comes to Korea to teach. Many people who return to the US cannot find work right away if at all. Teachers in Korea over a certain age are being discriminated against due to there age. So call it what you want because when I go home this parasite is going to get benefits as I EARNED THEM WITH MY TAXES. Further comments will be ignored
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

digirl2956 wrote:
Your comment shows your mentality...and sad to say is alot of what comes to Korea to teach. Many people who return to the US cannot find work right away if at all.


Sounds like a pretty good reason not to quit your current job.

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Teachers in Korea over a certain age are being discriminated against due to there age. So call it what you want because when I go home this parasite is going to get benefits as I EARNED THEM WITH MY TAXES. Further comments will be ignored


Why would you willingly put yourself in a situation where you cannot take care of yourself? Don't you have savings?

And you haven't earned jack. Welfare services is not a savings account. It is a safety net for the less fortunate. You are not the less fortunate. You're the lazy and the proud who is willingly putting herself into a situation where she cannot provide for herself.

There are jobs available in the US, so don't use that excuse. They may not be what you want in the long term, but they will feed you. Or would you rather demand charity from your countrymen?

It is a budgeted system, also, which means a finite number of people can use those services. Are you willing to displace someone who legitimately needs those services to survive?

Think about that. Also, unless you plan on sleeping on the street and eating out of a soup kitchen, DO NOT simply show up without any money like an irresponsible child with entitlement issues. You do not qualify for unemployment insurance, you do not qualify for welfare, you do not qualify for food stamps, and you do not qualify for living assistance.

You're an anomaly in the system -- you haven't been employed in the country for your duration outside of it and yet you reported income to the IRS. (If you did not report income, you would be wise to clear that up -- welfare fraud is serious business.) You would be very wise to either save up enough money to make the transition or extend your contract / get a new one elsewhere.

It's a sign of the times -- people think they can simply jump into a situation without taking any responsibility for themselves. Then they have the nerve to complain about the "mentality" of someone who works, hard, and pays for those welfare services that they intend to exploit at their convenience.

You're a real card. Don't plan on getting your dignity back from the welfare office, either.
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Richard Krainium



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This website says foreigners are eligible for unemployment benefits IN KOREA.
http://www.justlanded.com/english/South-Korea/South-Korea-Guide/Jobs/Labor-regulations-social-security
Did not know that. Useful link, thanks.

Unemployment benefits in the US are not welfare. If you are entitlted to them, you should, by all means get them, while you look for a new job.
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard Krainium wrote:
This website says foreigners are eligible for unemployment benefits IN KOREA.
http://www.justlanded.com/english/South-Korea/South-Korea-Guide/Jobs/Labor-regulations-social-security
Did not know that. Useful link, thanks.

Unemployment benefits in the US are not welfare. If you are entitlted to them, you should, by all means get them, while you look for a new job.


Indeed, unemployment is a form of insurance.

But returning from Korea looking to claim unemployment is like showing up at an insurance broker with a wrecked car and asking them to insure it so they can pay for it.

It insures you, with deductions from your income, against loss of employment. It does not pay you to not work.
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