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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:17 am    Post subject: Blood donating. Reply with quote

I figure I might as well carry on, since I did in the UK. But, can I trust it here? Being in a different country naturally gives me doubts to their procedures - England was bad enough.

Also, where would one go to donate? Doesn't seem as advertised here (at all)
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:34 am    Post subject: Re: Blood donating. Reply with quote

Globutron wrote:
I figure I might as well carry on, since I did in the UK. But, can I trust it here? Being in a different country naturally gives me doubts to their procedures - England was bad enough.

Also, where would one go to donate? Doesn't seem as advertised here (at all)


The Korean Red Cross (or other agencies) won't (as a general rule) take your blood as a general donor.

You are considered to be in a high risk category as a foreigner.

If you think that is being crazy or racist, don't blame me, I am just the messenger, not the xenophobe.

I have tried on may occasions to make a donation and EVERY time I was declined strictly on the basis of my being a "foreigner".

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Savant



Joined: 25 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Us Brits are all infected with that Mad Cow Disease so thinks the Korean Government Health Officials.

They don't need our stinkin' blood.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Savant wrote:
Us Brits are all infected with that Mad Cow Disease so thinks the Korean Government Health Officials.

They don't need our stinkin' blood.


As does Canadian Blood Services
http://www.blood.ca/CentreApps/Internet/UW_V502_MainEngine.nsf/page/Indefinite%20Deferral?OpenDocument

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People are not eligible to donate blood or plasma if they have spent a cumulative total of three months or more in the United Kingdom (U.K.) between January 1980, and December 31, 1996, or if they have spent a cumulative total of three months or more in France between January 1980, and December 31, 1996, or if they have spent a cumulative total of five years or more in Western Europe outside the U.K. or France since 1980. In addition, people will no longer be eligible to donate blood or plasma if they have had a blood transfusion in the U.K., France or Western Europe since 1980. This is owing to the risk of transmission of variant Creutzfeldt Jakob Disease (vCJD) through blood.
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toonchoon



Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Savant wrote:
Us Brits are all infected with that Mad Cow Disease so thinks the Korean Government Health Officials.

They don't need our stinkin' blood.


That's exactly the reason they wont let UK citizens donate. I'm serious. It has nothing to do with being a foreigner, as they let foreigners donate blood. Funny thing is they import blood to Korea from other nations as they don't have enough blood here.
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, I knew my beef binge would come back to me in some way. Not worth trying, it seems.
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Tundra_Creature



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: Blood donating. Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Globutron wrote:
I figure I might as well carry on, since I did in the UK. But, can I trust it here? Being in a different country naturally gives me doubts to their procedures - England was bad enough.

Also, where would one go to donate? Doesn't seem as advertised here (at all)


The Korean Red Cross (or other agencies) won't (as a general rule) take your blood as a general donor.

You are considered to be in a high risk category as a foreigner.

If you think that is being crazy or racist, don't blame me, I am just the messenger, not the xenophobe.

I have tried on may occasions to make a donation and EVERY time I was declined strictly on the basis of my being a "foreigner".

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I was under the impression that was like that for a lot of countries (unless you've stayed in the country for x amount of time). I remember in my old college, I had a German roomate who wasn't allowed to donate blood.
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jonah47



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: San Jose, CA

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:09 am    Post subject: Blood Donation Reply with quote

Funny thing as I was not allowed to donate blood here in San Jose, CA because I spent too much time in Korea. Something about the place being a hot spot for malaria or some such nonsense.
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Ruthdes



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's similar in Australia too. You can't donate blood there if you have lived in the UK for more than 6 months between a certain time. It's because you can't test for being infected with BSE (Mad Cow). Even when you start to show symptoms, they can only confirm the diagnosis on autopsy. If I were in charge of a blood supply, I wouldn't want to be responsible for people dying such a horrible death. Then again, other people die b/c there's not enough donor blood. It's all a matter of risk management.

It's the same with HIV infection risk reduction. In Australia, you can't give blood if you've had man to man sex, or have had sex with a man who has had man to man sex, in the past year. I was prevented from giving blood last time I went home b/c I'd had sex with a South African less than a year before. The fact that he had the HIV test to get a visa to teach here, and that we used a condom, is completely irrelevant to the regulations.

Korean is considered to be a malarial area (well the south is, anyway, so they just count the whole country). Therefore, if they had taken my blood, they would've only taken the plasma, and not the red blood cells.

I'd be interested to hear the actual blood giving regs for Korea. Do they ban all foreigners? If it's just Brits, I can understand it. Running a blood donation service is fraught with risk. It seems silly to deny willing donors, but higher risks groups need to be considered. A blanket ban on all foreigners would seem to be a knee-jerk reaction to risk management though.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruthdes wrote:
A blanket ban on all foreigners would seem to be a knee-jerk reaction to risk management though.


Knee-jerk reactions are the typical Korean government reaction to anything.

Our current visa restrictions and requirements came about as a direct result of Christopher Paul Neil having worked here (even though his crimes took place Thailand and Vietnam)..

And yes, it is a blanket ban on all foreigners donating whole blood.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
Savant wrote:
Us Brits are all infected with that Mad Cow Disease so thinks the Korean Government Health Officials.

They don't need our stinkin' blood.


As does Canadian Blood Services
http://www.blood.ca/CentreApps/Internet/UW_V502_MainEngine.nsf/page/Indefinite%20Deferral?OpenDocument

Quote:
People are not eligible to donate blood or plasma if they have spent a cumulative total of three months or more in the United Kingdom (U.K.) between January 1980, and December 31, 1996, or if they have spent a cumulative total of three months or more in France between January 1980, and December 31, 1996, or if they have spent a cumulative total of five years or more in Western Europe outside the U.K. or France since 1980. In addition, people will no longer be eligible to donate blood or plasma if they have had a blood transfusion in the U.K., France or Western Europe since 1980. This is owing to the risk of transmission of variant Creutzfeldt Jakob Disease (vCJD) through blood.


as it is in NZ as well.

Nobody wants your infected pommy blood
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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외국인의 헌혈기준에 대해 알고 싶습니다.
대한적십자사에서는 외국인 헌혈지원자의 경우 '국내에서 지속적으로 1년 이상 거주하고 한국어로 의사소통이 가능한 경우'에 한하여 헌혈자격이 주어집니다.

첫째는 국내에서 지속적으로 1년 이상 거주한 경우에 헌혈에 참여하실 수 있도록 하는 이유는, 외국의 경우 우리나라에는 없거나 확인이 안 되는 풍토병과 그와 유사한 질병들이 있기 때문에 이러한 질환으로부터 수혈자를 보호하기 위해서입니다.

둘째는 한국어로 의사소통이 가능한 경우에 헌혈을 할 수 있는 이유는 문진내용에 대한 정확한 이해와 답변이 가능한 헌혈자를 선별함으로써 수혈혈액의 안전성을 보장하고자 함입니다. 뿐만 아니라, 수혈혈액으로 인해 헌혈자에 대한 추후검사의 필요성이 발생되었을 경우 일시적으로 국내에 체류하거나 여행 중인 헌혈자는 추적조사에 어려움이 있어 헌혈자 보호 및 수혈 혈액의 안전성 강화를 위해 그와 같은 기준을 적용하고 있는 것입니다.

헌혈 당시 충분하게 설명 드리지 못한 점 사과드리며, 추후 헌혈에 참여해주시길 당부 드립니다.


www.bloodinfo.net

It is possible for a foreigner in Korea to donate, but there are regulations about length of stay and such.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
Quote:
외국인의 헌혈기준에 대해 알고 싶습니다.
대한적십자사에서는 외국인 헌혈지원자의 경우 '국내에서 지속적으로 1년 이상 거주하고 한국어로 의사소통이 가능한 경우'에 한하여 헌혈자격이 주어집니다.

첫째는 국내에서 지속적으로 1년 이상 거주한 경우에 헌혈에 참여하실 수 있도록 하는 이유는, 외국의 경우 우리나라에는 없거나 확인이 안 되는 풍토병과 그와 유사한 질병들이 있기 때문에 이러한 질환으로부터 수혈자를 보호하기 위해서입니다.

둘째는 한국어로 의사소통이 가능한 경우에 헌혈을 할 수 있는 이유는 문진내용에 대한 정확한 이해와 답변이 가능한 헌혈자를 선별함으로써 수혈혈액의 안전성을 보장하고자 함입니다. 뿐만 아니라, 수혈혈액으로 인해 헌혈자에 대한 추후검사의 필요성이 발생되었을 경우 일시적으로 국내에 체류하거나 여행 중인 헌혈자는 추적조사에 어려움이 있어 헌혈자 보호 및 수혈 혈액의 안전성 강화를 위해 그와 같은 기준을 적용하고 있는 것입니다.

헌혈 당시 충분하게 설명 드리지 못한 점 사과드리며, 추후 헌혈에 참여해주시길 당부 드립니다.


www.bloodinfo.net

It is possible for a foreigner in Korea to donate, but there are regulations about length of stay and such.


it seems like you have to be here for a year continuous which a lot of foreigners never are since they typically get a few weeks off every year to go home.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even after many years I have not be able to donate ....

The book may say one thing.. the person in the bus says another and her word is law at donation time.

No foreigners in the bus - thank you but no thank you.

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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I donate regularly at the Red Cross in Myungdong, Seoul. Not a problem. Been doing it for quite a while now. Getting iron levels down in most men is a good idea. We generally have too much iron in our bodies. Heart attacks + iron oxygenates the blood and destroys heart tissue. The less iron, the better IMHO. (Just don't become anemic.)
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