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.mov crashes regardless what I do - Any Apple soft Gurus?

 
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:17 am    Post subject: .mov crashes regardless what I do - Any Apple soft Gurus? Reply with quote

I've tried uninstalling Quicktime, reinstalling it, uninstalling it, and going for the alternative, but any player except flv crashes on loading a .mov.

Obviously I need .mov to work in Movie Maker so I want to edit my video rather than getting, "Windows Movie Maker has stopped working. Windows Media Player has stopped working. Itunes has stopped working" "Quicktime has stopped working. GOM player has stopped working." I ran that scannow thing in a DOS prompt as administrator and tried creating a new administrator profile, but none of these solutions posted on other sites worked.

I'm trying to find a legit conversion freeware to make them .avi files so I can just forget about CrApple's quicktime. Any video file I play in Itunes also crashes, but they play on IPOD just fine. I've installed all the latest Divix and Klite codecs and still CrApple is still making our machines dependent on it's buggy bloatware that needs to be put to sleep. I'm tired of spending so much time troubleshooting somethings that's very broken beyond belief with the software .mov's are dependent on.

Your help is appreciated. I'd like to know what's going on with this issue. Apple obviously has one tough cookie in place that flops. It makes me wonder how Apple is so big in the software arena. Sure I love their hardware, but they need get out of software except on their Mac PC's.
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Chokse



Joined: 22 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You say that no movie player is working, correct? Then how is that in any way related to Apple? Why put the blame on Apple? Why not on GOM Player? Why not on Movie Maker? According to you, none of them works correctly.

You also go on to say that the said .mov files play just fine on your iPod. This means the files are not corrupted. There is nothing wrong with them. There is also nothing wrong with your installation of Quicktime, GOM Player, or any other player software you have.

I see only one common denominator here. Windows! When you are outside of Windows (iPod), the files work. In Windows, nothing you try to use will work.

Dude. Don't put the blame on Apple for your Winblows meltdown. Anyway, the solution is simple. Just restore from your backup.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd uninstall all codec packs and media players. Then choose one do-it-all media player (like VLC), install that, and then install Quicktime.

Installing too many video players and codec packs will sometimes cause conflicts.

Keep it simple. VLC doesn't need any additional codec packs.

Which Windows are you using?
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks eamo, I'll try that 3 hour task if I can't locate a good .mov to .avi converter. My movie players are all working with .avi, x264, and MPEG-4, but not .mov videos. It is to be blamed on Apple software, because they are behind .mov. All players, except my VLC player is dependent on Quicktime. I have Quicktime installed and the Apple site says it's working fine, but it's not supporting Movie Maker and video players. VLC works, because it's designed to play anything with it's built in codecs. My computer has been like this since I bought it new a year and a half ago. I just want it fixed so I can edit my .mov vids. A re-installation of Windows a year ago didn't change anything.

I hardly would consider restoring over an Apple problem as that a big waste of time. I'm tired of fiddling around twiddling my thumbs waiting when I just want to use my PC. If Apple can't be fully compatible with PC's, then it needs to be put to sleep off of PC's. Many people are having this problem and I try the fixes on many different tech support forums, but they don't work for me. It's different for each PC due to Apple soft not universally supporting all these different PC architectures like the way Winblows supports them.

Quicktime is a misnomer as it means, "wait longer, wait lots longer for little to nothing to play." I remember how many sites used to use Quicktime for videos years ago and that broken Quicktime logo would come up more times than not on any PC, but now they don't as we all had to wait too long on Quicktime to play and they often didn't work. This is not the first time I've had problems with Quicktime. I've seen this seemingly unsolvable problem many times over the years on numerous PC's. Apple just doesn't do a PC justice, but it's beautiful on a Mac. Adobe's .pdf system presented a similar problems of being slow, buggy, and crashing for years, but they seemed to have their stuff together now.
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AsiaESLbound



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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I spent many tedious hours uninstalled everything and sifted through all the program and system files while following all of Apple's step by step instructions to fully clean the system of all Apple files before reinstalling Quicktime and Itunes. Now the Quicktime player will actually load and come on screen, but any .mov instantly crashes it.

"Quicktime has stopped working, windows is checking for a solution to the problem." Windows never finds a solutions nor does Apple. Same as I always get regardless of removing Apple everything from my system and reinstalling it all.

It ought to work. I have a 32 bit Windows Vista core duo system with 2 GB ram. Everything including .mov plays just fine with FLV player, but it doesn't do video format conversation dependent on Quicktime. I'm glad I don't need Quicktime for anything else. It just never worked on this machine despite numerous troubleshooting attempts. Frustrating.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.mov plays fine for me on Quicktime. Guess it's not Apple or else a million+ Apple users would be complaining now wouldn't they?
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:
.mov plays fine for me on Quicktime. Guess it's not Apple or else a million+ Apple users would be complaining now wouldn't they?


Right, it's my system or a software conflict of some sort I can't locate. I've seen many PC's have unsolvable Quicktime issues and many PC's work just fine. This is a fact swept under the carpet, because it works fine on many systems, but other systems have to give it trying. Luckily, I was able to convert my vids and ended up with nice H.264 compression using Pazera. Quicktime .mov is bloated by 5.5X factor. Of course that .mov is a raw video file from my cam.
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s4yunkim



Joined: 28 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just my 2 cents,

Saying MOV is a crappy standard compared to whatever isnt technically accurate... MOV is just a container, just like AVI, MKV, MP4, etc

It's possible to just pull apart an MOV and reassemble it into an MKV or AVI, etc, without any transcoding, and it would take all of 30 seconds on a 5 minute clip.

That said, I would make sure your codecs are installed properly. If the file is working on some computers, but not others, it's probably that the ones that it's not playing on have corrupted codec installations.

Try downloading VLC on either windows or mac (www.videolan.org) and playing the clip. I think VLC has its codecs built in, so they should play. It's a more light weight video player overall as well.

Otherwise, there are tons of programs out there that will transcode video for you, just do a quick google search like "free MOV to AVI converter" and you will find no shortage of them.

Hope that works for ya. Very Happy
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have both a windbook (win xp) and a macbook pro.

my standard preferred media player on the windbook is either real player which has been modified to play qt files or the goem player, which pretty much plays everything.

not sure your problem as you said you've uninstalled and tried re-installing, sounds like a bitch all right.

I edit film in final cut pro which is mac based, but understand sony vegas works well in windows and is fairly cheap; you might look into that.

finally, http://www.squared5.com/ is pretty popular and my preferred clip-maker; you might try that for converting .mov files.

good luck Cool
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