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m3erds
Joined: 22 Feb 2010
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 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:17 am Post subject: hagwon holding my diploma |
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| I just started working at a hagwon and they said they will hold my diploma until the end of my contract. There is nothing in my contract that mentioned this and I am not comfortable with it. I don't want to kick a hornet's nest, I just want my diploma. What should I do to get my diploma without rocking the boat too much? |
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Say you need it to apply for graduate school or something to that effect.
Or just tell them to give it you since it's your property and they have zero right to retain it. |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| Go into your director's office while he's there and start going through your papers. "What are you doing?" "Getting my diploma back." "I told you we need to keep it until the end of your contract." "I heard you." "So what are you doing?" "Getting my diploma back." "Why?" "It's mine." "I told you we need to keep it until the end of your contract." "I heard you." "So what are you doing?" "Getting my diploma back." "Why?" "It's mine." "I told you we need to keep it until the end of your contract." "I heard you." "So what are you doing?" "Getting my diploma back." "Why?" "It's mine." |
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Seoulio
Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:27 am Post subject: |
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It is illegal for him to have it, and it is ilegal for him to hold it. it is your document and is needed to OBTAIN your visa.
Also be aware that you will want to get out of the school as soon as you get the Diploma, you are in for some Shady business goings on |
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m3erds
Joined: 22 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Heh, It's been a week and I haven't even met or seen the guy yet. |
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m3erds
Joined: 22 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| Hypothetically, how do I switch jobs? I thought you had to wait until the visa ran out. How quickly can it be accomplished? |
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| m3erds wrote: |
| Heh, It's been a week and I haven't even met or seen the guy yet. |
Then don't get up in arms talking about switching schools just yet. Maybe once you speak to him he'll give it right back. In my first year, my old school held onto my diploma and I got quite worried about it. Finally I just went and asked for it and they gave it right back with a smile.
In the end I felt stupid for reading threads like this and getting so worried about it when I all needed to do was talk to the guy who has it in the first place. Who knows, maybe it'll work for you, too. |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| runthegauntlet wrote: |
| In the end I felt stupid for reading threads like this and getting so worried about it when I all needed to do was talk to the guy who has it in the first place. |
I disagree.
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| I just started working at a hagwon and they said they will hold my diploma until the end of my contract. |
You talked to them once. Don't beg. |
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m3erds
Joined: 22 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| I have heard about issues with late payment and the like. There have been a few red flags and I just want to be prepared for anything. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| m3erds wrote: |
| I have heard about issues with late payment and the like. There have been a few red flags and I just want to be prepared for anything. |
Tell the thief that you'll have to break his limbs one at a time until he returns your diplma. No ands or buts. Simple as that.  |
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hsaeoa
Joined: 13 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Go in on Monday and inform whoever is in charge of you that your diploma is your diploma and you want it back. Don't yell don't lose your cool, but be stern. Tell them if they wish to make a copy to show the parents that would be perfectly fine. If they refuse inform them that you will be going to the local police station to file a report for the theft of your diploma.
Schools will do this because they think that if they hold your documents you won't do a runner. There is no reason for them to hold your diploma. |
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
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| In the end I felt stupid for reading threads like this and getting so worried about it when I all needed to do was talk to the guy who has it in the first place. |
I disagree.
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About what? How I felt and what happened in my situation?
What an asinine thing to say. |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| runthegauntlet wrote: |
| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| runthegauntlet wrote: |
| In the end I felt stupid for reading threads like this and getting so worried about it when I all needed to do was talk to the guy who has it in the first place. |
I disagree.
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About what? How I felt and what happened in my situation?
What an asinine thing to say. |
I disagreed with your suggestion. I misquoted. I think you know that. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| Have your mom call the school and insist they give it back. That might be quite interesting. |
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| runthegauntlet wrote: |
| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| runthegauntlet wrote: |
| In the end I felt stupid for reading threads like this and getting so worried about it when I all needed to do was talk to the guy who has it in the first place. |
I disagree.
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About what? How I felt and what happened in my situation?
What an asinine thing to say. |
I disagreed with your suggestion. I misquoted. I think you know that. |
That's what edit buttons are for.
And you disagree with my suggestion about asking for the diploma instead of getting ready to flee the school? Wow. The asinine part still fits. |
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