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My employer will not give me information that I need

 
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:14 am    Post subject: My employer will not give me information that I need Reply with quote

I'm filling out my 2555 Foreign Earned Income tax form. Question 11 in Part II asks "Kind of living quarters in foreign country". I checked "Quarters furnished by employer". Section 21a in Part IV talks about "noncash income" and asks for the value of the lodging furnished by the employer.

I asked my boss for a statement showing the amount payed for rent, but she refused to do so, saying that she does not have to give me that information. I showed her my tax form and how this information is needed in order for me to properly file taxes, but she still said no that she is not going to do it.

What should I do? I need to hurry up and finish my tax form and get it in the mail as it is due June 15th. What should I do?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at your contract for the part where it discusses living arrangements. If there is a value for lodging allowance if you do not take housing provided by the school, use that amount.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
If there is a value for lodging allowance if you do not take housing provided by the school, use that amount.


My contract contains no such provision.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a handy, dandy, quick and dirty guide for your rent valuation. This is off the top of my head, so anyone can quibble about the amounts, but it's good enough for tax purposes:

apt type: monthly rent:

studio $250
1 BDR $300
2 BDR $400
3 BDR $500

Additions based on location:
In a large city, add $50 to 100 per month.
In Seoul, add $150 to $300 per month.
Nice place, view, location, add $100 to $250 per month.
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there might be confusion about the "value of the lodgings furnished." That is, your employer might think you want to know how much your apartment is worth, when really, all you want to know is how much housing allowance you would be given if you had your own place (and thus, the value of the noncash income). It could be that she is not paying any rent -- someone might owe her a favor, she might be getting your place "under the table" somehow, it might be sublet in an improper fashion...and all you need is the going rate for housing....

Just curious as to why you didn't just fill in 300k a month -- isn't that the "going rate" for a housing allowance? Like 2.2 million seems to be going rate for newbie salaries....
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is really good information. However, I don't think it would be a good idea to just guess on a tax form. Also, the form says to attach a statement showing the amount.
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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: My employer will not give me information that I need Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
I asked my boss for a statement showing the amount payed for rent, but she refused to do so, saying that she does not have to give me that information. I showed her my tax form and how this information is needed in order for me to properly file taxes, but she still said no that she is not going to do it.

Tell her to make it up, you don't care, as long as it's on company letterhead and it's signed. It's your responsibility to make sure your tax information is accurate *to the best of your ability* and this satisfies your responsibility in that regard.

I did this when my director didn't have the paperwork on him, I just gave him some letterhead and he put some numbers on it and signed it.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
That is really good information. However, I don't think it would be a good idea to just guess on a tax form. Also, the form says to attach a statement showing the amount.


Go to Budangsan, as them for potential apartments in your area, close to your reqs, ask them to put it on paper

voila, you have a comparative study.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is my boss under no obligation to give me required information for a required tax form?

I'd feel better about having a precise accurate figure than a rough estimate.

Is that not an option at this point?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
Is my boss under no obligation to give me required information for a required tax form?


No, he is under NO obligation to provide documentation for your US taxes and under Korean tax law, housing (as compared to housing allowance) is an untaxed benefit.

Just add a note explaining that there is NO FORM available and best estimate would be "value of housing allowance".

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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is an untaxed benefit, so just leave that line blank?

Line 21 asks for the "market value of property or facilities furnished by the employer".

Surely my apartment falls under this category, right?

There is no "housing allowance" option in my contract, so I can't use that.

Going to a real estate agency to find out prices in the area to make an estimate is what I should do?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
It is an untaxed benefit, so just leave that line blank?

Line 21 asks for the "market value of property or facilities furnished by the employer".

Surely my apartment falls under this category, right?

There is no "housing allowance" option in my contract, so I can't use that.

Going to a real estate agency to find out prices in the area to make an estimate is what I should do?


On your KOREAN income tax return it is an untaxed benefit.

Koreans don't care about and are not obligated to provide information for your US tax return.

In reality, Uncle Sam and the IRS have no way to check or verify any number that you care to use (they don't know what kind of a shoe box you live in) anyway so quit stressing over it.

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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just put in a number, it's not going to put you above 85,000 USD.
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