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So has anyone not been re-signed for SMOE?
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: So has anyone not been re-signed for SMOE? Reply with quote

So my contract re-signing is coming up and I'm curious because they recently changed it so all teachers have to interview to resign. Also much of my school's staff changed in the past 3 months so I'm curious about the process since these new people barely no me.


I've known a few people turned down, but from what I've read, as long as your school doesn't hate you and you don't botch the open class, your in like flint.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry if they don't "no" you. Your fellow CTs don't do the interviewing anyway.
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hapigokelli



Joined: 04 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...but co-teachers do send in evaluations of you.

I also found out that all of my students are filling out satisfaction questionnaires about my classes. Is that normal?
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's old news, but I wasn't re-signed by SMOE a few years back. Apparently, my head English teacher (and the other co-teachers) weren't impressed when I refused to sit with them in the teachers' office (after their beating students in front of me).

I guess refusing to teach with another male teacher for a week - when his classroom violence got completely out of control - didn't help my re-signing either.

Also, my planned lessons, based on TEFL methodology, didn't impress them either, as at my re-signing interview the smug SMOE supervisor told me: "We just want you for your voice."

In the end, they have to like you - and you have to like working with them. I wouldn't have thought your demo lesson, or your teaching practice had much to do with being re-signed, as at my 're-signing/firing' interview, all the women teachers were taken into a room and immediately re-signed (no questions asked). In contrast, all the older guys were taken into an interview room and 'interviewed' or canned.

Good luck.
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beckett



Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Ireland

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told you only have to have an interview if you score below 70 in your evaluation by your co-teacher and your demo class ??
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beckett wrote:
I was told you only have to have an interview if you score below 70 in your evaluation by your co-teacher and your demo class ??


My coteacher told me it's changed....I'm wondering if the influx of newbies is making them pickier or they're looking for replacements.

The old staff, current 2nd co-teacher, principal, and old vice principal love me....my new co-teacher doesn't hate me, but I think she'd replace me if she had the chance to do it easily....she's fairly critical of me all the time...

I think the new vice principal likes me at least I think.

I can't see any serious reasons why I wouldn't get resigned, but in korea you never know.
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bcjinseoul



Joined: 13 Jan 2010
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They wouldn't let me transfer, and they were probably going to make it so I couldn't renew...so I didn't renew (begin the renewal process rather) with the school and co-teacher I hated. 3 months from now I hope I'm working at a uni, since this is my 4th year here. Or I'll just give myself September off and start a really good hogwon or after school program in October. I'm pretty much done with public schools, after a bad experience with SMOE as well as GEPIK.
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mmstyle



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I renewed in the Spring (open class in December) I heard it was 85%, but only 1-2 people in my district were interviewed. SMOE has now made it standard policy that you can't transfer. You have to renew where you are or be dropped.

I would say that your acceptance at school is the most important thing. If your demo plan is decent, no problems. I actually received some (useless) "critique" from the SETI reps observing me (because I teach in units, not individual lessons, and they saw 1 component). Long story short, my CT smiled and said I had nothing to worry about.

OP, does your school like you?
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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Re: So has anyone not been re-signed for SMOE? Reply with quote

Ukon wrote:
I've known a few people turned down, but from what I've read, as long as your school doesn't hate you and you don't botch the open class, your in like flint.

In like Flynn.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1127/does-in-like-flynn-refer-to-errol-flynns-success-with-women
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working title



Joined: 20 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So is it confirmed that these interviews are mandatory even with high marks?

And

How long is the interview? What is the standard format/procedure for the re-newal interview?
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drama_addict



Joined: 30 Aug 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Open Class was today and my CT said I did alright. I definitely know my school likes me. I get along great with my co workers, and I bring in candy or small gifts for everyone on Western Holidays which they always get a kick out of and definitely appreciate.

I actually hope they let me re sign, as I absolutely LOVE my school. The situation I'm in right now is ace compared to what I had with EPIK in Busan.

All I know is everyone's scores will be submitted to SMOE heaquarters this Thursday, 10 June, 2010. I'm not sure when the interviews are held...
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Caesar1313



Joined: 03 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

working title wrote:
So is it confirmed that these interviews are mandatory even with high marks?

And

How long is the interview? What is the standard format/procedure for the re-newal interview?


The women who saw my open class two weeks ago told me it was "fantastic" and they have not spoken a word about an interview. I didn't have one last year either.
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hapigokelli



Joined: 04 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got an interview for renewal at the SMOE offices next week. I'm told that it's mandatory for all re-signing teachers.
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Seoulio



Joined: 02 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: So has anyone not been re-signed for SMOE? Reply with quote

ChilgokBlackHole wrote:
Ukon wrote:
I've known a few people turned down, but from what I've read, as long as your school doesn't hate you and you don't botch the open class, your in like flint.

In like Flynn.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1127/does-in-like-flynn-refer-to-errol-flynns-success-with-women


LMAO

It's ALSO in like FLINT!

It's a 1967 Movie, quite famous.
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Seoulio



Joined: 02 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmstyle wrote:
When I renewed in the Spring (open class in December) I heard it was 85%, but only 1-2 people in my district were interviewed. SMOE has now made it standard policy that you can't transfer. You have to renew where you are or be dropped.

I would say that your acceptance at school is the most important thing. If your demo plan is decent, no problems. I actually received some (useless) "critique" from the SETI reps observing me (because I teach in units, not individual lessons, and they saw 1 component). Long story short, my CT smiled and said I had nothing to worry about.

OP, does your school like you?


they most certainly have NOT made this policy. ( unless they have not updated it on the website since April 25th)

UNles you can prove this with a link ( which clearly shows that Jon Pak has not updated his two MAIN information sites) this is flat out wrong.

This is the EXACT post from the SMOE Website

Hello Teachers,

I know most would like to transfer at the end of the contract term but transfers are dependent of the school and district office.

First you will need High marks on your evaulation.
You will go through a renewal interview and then you can ask your supervisor to be transferred. Not everyone will be able to transfer.
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