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Well unfortunatley for you, no one votes for people like you. |
Because 90% of people don't have a clue about the environment nor care for what they don't understand. |
I guess you are in that top 10% then huh? Give me a break.
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Its largely a world of selfish urbanised consumers cut off from nature and any sort of meaningful understanding of or relationship with the natural world. |
This is basically a religious statement.
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| I'm not singling out westerners here. Asians take No.1 spot as some of the most selfish and environmentally destructive specimens on the planet. Korea is a prime example- wrecklessly concreting over all their valuable habitats and ecosystems in order to provide construction jobs or office space for short-term financial gain. |
I'm sure you would develop your country as well, if you had to live on a bowl of rice a day.
Oh, I forgot. As a religious, environmental fundamentalist you believe that humans are basically scum, and that the habitat of brown spotted owls should always take precedence over human suffering.
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Its a world of mass-produced ignorant human consumers rolling off a production line, an army wrecking havoc on the other species we should be co-existing with..headed by greedy and corrupt politicians who's only values are commercial.. At least China has agreed to protect a certain number of nature reserves for threatened wildlife. As for korea and japan..they've simply transformed themselves into sterile concrete slabs with office space. |
Everyone is a mindless, faceless drone, except for you. Right?
This pretty much sums it up.
http://xkcd.com/610/
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| bemoaning the loss of species while complaining about research that could one day help restore them. |
The research to save and protect species and our environment is already well in place. What is needed is for governments to take action to protect their own natural heritage- which is in fact an international shared resource.
Spending millions playing with genetics in a lab is a waste of funding. What would be better is education and awareness campaigns. |
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Didn't private firms fund and discover this technology? |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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I think a related topic is the safety of genetically modified foods and how scientific studies are deceptively used to promote their continued widespread use despite mounting evidence of their devastatingly harmful long-term effects.
A very recent Russian study (to be published this summer) indicates almost complete loss of reproductive ability in third generation offspring of hamsters fed a diet that was high in GMO soy (and some of the hamsters started growing hair in their mouth...) Other studies have found fundamental changes in DNA function in mice whose parents were fed genetically modified soy or corn.
These interviews definitely provide some food for thought...
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/05/22/jeffrey-smith-interview-april-24.aspx |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| How is this not a paradigm shift? We can create life, perhaps new forms that can do incredible things. There will be good things come from this, new treatments for diseases, and probably bad things but it is amazing. |
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The Happy Warrior
Joined: 10 Feb 2010
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| How is this not a paradigm shift? We can create life, perhaps new forms that can do incredible things. There will be good things come from this, new treatments for diseases, and probably bad things but it is amazing. |
This is inaccurate.
http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2010/05/synthetic-life-i-think-not/57146/
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Has man indeed made life? I think not. The replica is indistinguishable in form and function from the original. Were it not for marker tags introduced into the replica DNA, there would be no difference at all. It is as if one were to create a copy of Michelangelo's David, accurate down to the last crack and imperfection except for the signature, and call it new.
Will this work open a new era of modern biology? Again unlikely. That door was opened some time ago with the advent of genetic engineering that allows functioning genes of one organism to be inserted into another (think of the human gene for insulin inserted in bacterium to produce the replacement hormone for diabetics), and more recently by mixing and matching the genes from many different species to create new useful biochemical pathways. |
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