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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:38 am    Post subject: Expats to get easier iPhone contracts Reply with quote

Expats to get easier iPhone contracts

Korea Times
By Kim Tong-hyung
Staff reporter

South Korea has been swept away by iPhone euphoria, but expatriates have complained about the complicated contract requirements by wireless operators here that kept them out of the party.

Now, KT, the local provider of the iPhones, is promising to try harder to please foreign Apple fanatics.

KT, the country's second-largest mobile-phone carrier after SK Telecom, announced a set of measures Sunday to make its handsets more affordable and accessible to non-Korean users.

The company's revised service plans for foreigners include lowered visa barriers for registering phones and larger flexibility in phone installment and monthly payment plans. KT will also increase its number of multi-lingual stores in Seoul, where questions can be fielded in English, Chinese, Japanese and other languages.

"The idea is to allow foreign nationals to subscribe to our telecommunications services on the same conditions as Koreans," said Jin Byung-gwon, a KT spokesman.

"The specialized stores for foreigners will be first established in districts such as Itaewon and Gwanghwamun and areas around colleges, such as Kyung Hee University, which are known for their large number of foreign residents. The stores will be introduced in other metropolitan cities and also in Ansan, Gyeonggi Province, which has a large foreign community."

Previously, foreign nationals with F-2, F-4 or F-5 visas, which are issued to those with Korean "blood" heritage, or people married to a Korean national or granted permanent residential status, were able to sign the conventional two-year contracts for iPhones and other mobile phones.

Foreign residents with other types of visas could only get the phones on one-year contracts and also had to buy the handsets upfront and not in monthly installments, which was a strain on their wallets.

Wireless carriers had long insisted the restrictions as inevitable, as foreign mobile users leaving without paying the bills remain a problem for them.

However, with the iPhone taking the country by storm, there has been an increasing voice from the expat community that the carriers should consider more ways to make it easier for foreign nationals to buy and register phones.

According to KT's eased subscription and payment requirements, foreign nationals with A-1, A-2, E-1, E-3, E-4, and E-5 visas, which are given to diplomats, government employees, educators, researchers and technology experts, are newly allowed to purchase phones in installments, regardless of their remaining visa periods.

Aside from the multi-lingual stores, KT is also operating a telephone hotline (02-2190-1180) where operators provide consulting in English, Chinese and Japanese.

"There are more than 1.16 million foreigners in South Korea, with the country becoming integrated more in international business. But despite the country's reputation as an information technology power (IT), the telecommunications service environment for expatriates has been inadequate," said Pyo Hyun-myung, who heads KT's wireless division.

"With the smartphone era blurring the national boundaries between telecommunication services, we will focus on extending our best services to foreigners."

There are about 910,000 foreign nationals subscribed to mobile services here, with about half of them using prepaid phones, according to industry figures.

KT has sold more than 700,000 iPhones since the late November release, nearly singlehandedly igniting a smartphone frenzy that has put the industry on the cusp of a mobile Internet explosion.
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sshemma



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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesnt include E2 visa holders though.

How much is an iPhone upfront anyway?
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen the 3G for as low as 160,000won now. 4G is a month away.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are E-2 visas only for Teachers?
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently downloaded a korean app app. An app about apps. According to the app, one of the most common search terms on the app store is dmb in Korea. While the iphone has done well so far, I think they're going to have to come up with a solution for koreans to get their TV on the iphone that they love so much.

Perhaps something that plugs into the dock or something else. There is precedent for plugin devices like that credit card scanner you can get to take mobile payments.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
I recently downloaded a korean app app. An app about apps. According to the app, one of the most common search terms on the app store is dmb in Korea. While the iphone has done well so far, I think they're going to have to come up with a solution for koreans to get their TV on the iphone that they love so much.

Perhaps something that plugs into the dock or something else. There is precedent for plugin devices like that credit card scanner you can get to take mobile payments.



http://mashable.com/2010/05/28/new-apple-t/

Rumor has it that Apple is working on an iPhone OS-based Apple TV. The linked article doesn't say anything about actually being able to watch TV on the new iPhone, but if the new Apple TV runs on the iPhone OS, then it is quite possible that this feature will be developed shortly.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Expats to get easier iPhone contracts Reply with quote

4 months left wrote:
Wireless carriers had long insisted the restrictions as inevitable, as foreign mobile users leaving without paying the bills remain a problem for them.


Utter nonsense. How can they consider that a problem compared to the massive nonpayment rates of the local citizenry? Now, if they were to pop up with some verifiable statistics, I'd be persuaded to agree with them; however, it's a bit odd that they're complaining about non-payment when they don't extend credit to the foreigners.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ginormousaurus wrote:



http://mashable.com/2010/05/28/new-apple-t/

Rumor has it that Apple is working on an iPhone OS-based Apple TV. The linked article doesn't say anything about actually being able to watch TV on the new iPhone, but if the new Apple TV runs on the iPhone OS, then it is quite possible that this feature will be developed shortly.


The problem is in Korea the DMB system is already in place. I don't know if content providers would want to build something additional just for the iPhone. Developing something that would plug into the dock would be a better move I think. Koreans area already used to having to screw in their antenna for it to work, so having them plug in a small unit to get their signal would be fairly similar.

CentralCali wrote:

Utter nonsense. How can they consider that a problem compared to the massive nonpayment rates of the local citizenry? Now, if they were to pop up with some verifiable statistics, I'd be persuaded to agree with them; however, it's a bit odd that they're complaining about non-payment when they don't extend credit to the foreigners.


The problem is the citizens stay in the country and the companies can go after them.

People on 1 year or less visas have no legal standing, no direct tie to be in the country 1 year later at the time that they sign the contract. They're two completely different situations.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why get an iPhone anyway? I have yet to be convinced it's worth the money (or the hassle). To all of you iPhone users--convince me. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easter Clark wrote:
Why get an iPhone anyway? I have yet to be convinced it's worth the money (or the hassle). To all of you iPhone users--convince me. Very Happy


Likewise. I'm here to save money and my free 3G Korean phone works just fine. I can see a business professional having a nice hand held computer the Iphone is, but as an English teacher it's comparable to having a nice set of golf clubs. I don't care if I qualify for it or nor, I only care about having the means to have a phone in my pocket. It was difficult to get a phone.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Expats to get easier iPhone contracts Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
4 months left wrote:
Wireless carriers had long insisted the restrictions as inevitable, as foreign mobile users leaving without paying the bills remain a problem for them.


Utter nonsense. How can they consider that a problem compared to the massive nonpayment rates of the local citizenry? Now, if they were to pop up with some verifiable statistics, I'd be persuaded to agree with them; however, it's a bit odd that they're complaining about non-payment when they don't extend credit to the foreigners.


I get where you're coming from, but here is at least one example:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=181976&highlight=

At least with Koreans, the cell companies can go after them.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easter Clark wrote:
Why get an iPhone anyway? I have yet to be convinced it's worth the money (or the hassle). To all of you iPhone users--convince me. Very Happy


Typical sheep mentality. Korean people seem to have no idea what the Iphone actually does or doesn't do, but they need to keep up with the Kims.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
The problem is the citizens stay in the country and the companies can go after them.

People on 1 year or less visas have no legal standing, no direct tie to be in the country 1 year later at the time that they sign the contract. They're two completely different situations.


The issue as I see it is that the companies are pretending that there are massive numbers of foreigners not paying bills, bills which they don't have in the first place because the companies aren't extending credit in the first place. In other words, utter nonsense on their part. How well is going after the local citizen defaulters going for the companies, anyway? Last I heard, not very well, not very well at all.

And the exception? Wow. One example. I'm impressed. By the way, did you happen to see my posts in that thread?
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:

Never said it wasn't. The issue as I see it is that the companies are pretending that there are massive numbers of foreigners not paying bills, bills which they don't have in the first place because the companies aren't extending credit in the first place. In other words, utter nonsense on their part.

And the exception? Wow. One example. I'm impressed. By the way, did you happen to see my posts in that thread?


it doesn't matter how many have actually done it, it is a far greater risk for them than a local. Plain and simple. Even if we all promise to be on our super duper best behaviour, there is no guarantee you'll be here when your contract ends.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
it doesn't matter how many have actually done it, it is a far greater risk for them than a local. Plain and simple. Even if we all promise to be on our super duper best behaviour, there is no guarantee you'll be here when your contract ends.


You, and apparently they, fail to understand the concept of risk.
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