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is it dodgy, or am i just paranoid?

 
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goatlord



Joined: 14 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:26 am    Post subject: is it dodgy, or am i just paranoid? Reply with quote

iv been offered a job at a hagwon that seems pretty reputable and im all ready to accept it. i told them this but asked if i could just speak to a current teacher in order to get a first hand account of what its like to work there. i was told that i would only be given the contact details by the HR department once they had received my documents and the employment process was already on the go. is this a regular deal, or are they trying to hide something? i just think that if there was nothing untoward going on they'd be pretty upfront. can't really work it out. any insight anyone can give me?
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RUN!
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air76



Joined: 13 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I would definitely see this as a red flag....I wouldn't work at a hagwon without speaking to a current or former teacher first.
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goatlord



Joined: 14 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmm, yeah, it does smell a bit fishy. i've found the number of the branch online, was considering just giving them a call and seeing what they say...
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you don't have to justify why you want to speak to another teacher - they know already that you might ask for this.

either they will provide one for you - and chances are, it may be one they approve of ahead of time, and you still have to take the info you receive with a grain of salt, or they will change their mind and find someone else.

if they totally refuse, well, like the first responder said: RUN! Laughing
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is odd but the RUN comments are just people knee jerk responded.

Smarter course of action:

Request contact information again and if they refuse ask why.

If they cannot provide a reasonable reason (I have no idea what that would be however), then you can politely tell them you are sorry but you cannot accept their job offer.
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WTP Trust



Joined: 13 May 2010
Location: Hittin' the books at Yonsei

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HAHA! An HR department at a hagwon. Those poor overworked secretaries.
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confucian



Joined: 13 May 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
This is odd but the RUN comments are just people knee jerk responded.

Smarter course of action:

Request contact information again and if they refuse ask why.

If they cannot provide a reasonable reason (I have no idea what that would be however), then you can politely tell them you are sorry but you cannot accept their job offer.


Politely state that other hagwons [ don't provide details, especially if they ask] had no problem giving contact information, and as a result you will not be working for them but one of the honest and upfront hagwons instead.

That will be a win-win-win, as you will be helping the next foreigner in contact with said dodgy hagwon; you will be helping said hagwon in proper employment practices.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite true confucian.
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