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darren0946uk
Joined: 29 May 2007
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 Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:08 am Post subject: worlds best hahah. I worked in cambodia and......... |
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well I thought korea was world best not a third world country.(sorry if I offened any Koreans who read this) That is when it comes to putting on the air con in the class rooms. I'm just shocked when the teachers are saying it's really hot. Yet when they get to class room they say it's not hot enough for the air con!!! even when the kids are also saying "teacher it is so hot air con" Or is this just a poor country.
As I know cambodia is poor yet they had the air con on all the time. Just don't get it. I really didn't want to complain but just need to let of some steam. Take care all, and enjoy the free sauna at work. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| Yea, it's a bit on the warm side in my 3rd floor classroom on the South side, but it's actually very nice outside. No fans are provided nor allowed either where I work, but the front admin office on the North side ground level is not so warm. It's not that Korea is poor, it's the admin saving money so the suits can maybe have a soju soaked Summer evening over dog or simply line their pockets or simply aiming for promotion on account of being good at cost control in managing a school. I wouldn't really know as I'm not told anything about anything nor do I receive support one would expect to be provide in this situation. It's just a vertical organizational structure where the people on the bottom have to passively tolerate any kind of crap rolling downhill. There is no debating anything regardless how obvious something's wrong or needs attention. Yes, the Korean teachers and students express the discomfort more so than I do, because they are more sensitive coming from what is a very cool climate with long Winters. |
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anynag
Joined: 01 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:52 am Post subject: |
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The best you can hope for is an open window (or several) and some fans. Administrators (at all levels of education here) are too cheap to spring for air conditioning, which may or may not be allowed to be turned on by such-and-such date on a calendar. The same holds true for heaters and hot water during the cold months; when it's December 1st, they'll turn on the heat. 
Never mind that the kids are sweltering to death and practically killing each other, or freezing to death with parkas and hats on in the classroom.
I suggest that you dress appropriately and drink plenty of water; it won't get any cooler for a while. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| My aircon is on all the time in my classroom and has been for about a month now. My school is awesome. |
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KoreanAmbition
Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| Yea, it's a bit on the warm side in my 3rd floor classroom on the South side, but it's actually very nice outside. No fans are provided nor allowed either where I work, but the front admin office on the North side ground level is not so warm. It's not that Korea is poor, it's the admin saving money so the suits can maybe have a soju soaked Summer evening over dog or simply line their pockets or simply aiming for promotion on account of being good at cost control in managing a school. I wouldn't really know as I'm not told anything about anything nor do I receive support one would expect to be provide in this situation. It's just a vertical organizational structure where the people on the bottom have to passively tolerate any kind of crap rolling downhill. There is no debating anything regardless how obvious something's wrong or needs attention. Yes, the Korean teachers and students express the discomfort more so than I do, because they are more sensitive coming from what is a very cool climate with long Winters. |
What are you talking about? They don't come from a cool climate. They don't have long winters.
Are you comparing them to living on the sun??? |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| Man, some of you guys work in some crappy schools. |
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brier
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| Air-con is a sign of weakness and western decadence. Nation strengthening means being damp in the summer. Enjoy. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| KoreanAmbition wrote: |
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| Yea, it's a bit on the warm side in my 3rd floor classroom on the South side, but it's actually very nice outside. No fans are provided nor allowed either where I work, but the front admin office on the North side ground level is not so warm. It's not that Korea is poor, it's the admin saving money so the suits can maybe have a soju soaked Summer evening over dog or simply line their pockets or simply aiming for promotion on account of being good at cost control in managing a school. I wouldn't really know as I'm not told anything about anything nor do I receive support one would expect to be provide in this situation. It's just a vertical organizational structure where the people on the bottom have to passively tolerate any kind of crap rolling downhill. There is no debating anything regardless how obvious something's wrong or needs attention. Yes, the Korean teachers and students express the discomfort more so than I do, because they are more sensitive coming from what is a very cool climate with long Winters. |
What are you talking about? They don't come from a cool climate. They don't have long winters.
Are you comparing them to living on the sun??? |
Oh yes, It was cold all the way to the 1st of May with May being on the cool side as well. It's not subtropical nor even as warm as other temperate climate areas. Koreans are sensitive to the Sun and warm weather so they wear hats, visors, and use parasols well past the point of looking silly. More power to them for using the outdated looking sunny day umbrellas. My students are only sitting there and they constantly use hand fans, but only wearing shorts and light cotton T-shirts; not physically active in pants, button shirts, and business attire. Despite the heat, even banks aren't using A/C. I haven't felt one bit of A/C yet anywhere this year not that I really need it. I only need fans unless it's 95% humidity and 90 F or above. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:07 am Post subject: |
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What are you talking about? They don't come from a cool climate. They don't have long winters.
Are you comparing them to living on the sun??? |
It's pretty damned cold in the winter when they don't have proper insulation. One minute feels like an eternity. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| Central heating and air where I work. If it's off and we want it on, we make a phone call and voila! |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal wrote: |
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What are you talking about? They don't come from a cool climate. They don't have long winters.
Are you comparing them to living on the sun??? |
It's pretty damned cold in the winter when they don't have proper insulation. One minute feels like an eternity. |
Yes, the thin concrete buildings lacking heating and insulation seem more fit for tropical climate such as schools, shops, and many apartment blocks. I thought it was uncomfortably freezing cold to cool at work from February to the 1st of May and we severly lacked heat. I like those cute animal hats with attached mittens students wear. I was still wearing my jacket in May and feeling the misery of being perpetually cold less and less each day as Spring progressed, but it seemed like eternity. It's a cold place, but now a heat wave is on. Well sorta, it's really not hot outside, it's just warm and sunny enough to make the concrete box classroom bake like an oven. |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
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What are you talking about? They don't come from a cool climate. They don't have long winters.
Are you comparing them to living on the sun??? |
It's pretty damned cold in the winter when they don't have proper insulation. One minute feels like an eternity. |
Yes, the thin concrete buildings lacking heating and insulation seem more fit for tropical climate such as schools, shops, and many apartment blocks. I thought it was uncomfortably freezing cold to cool at work from February to the 1st of May and we severly lacked heat. I like those cute animal hats with attached mittens students wear. I was still wearing my jacket in May and feeling the misery of being perpetually cold less and less each day as Spring progressed, but it seemed like eternity. It's a cold place, but now a heat wave is on. Well sorta, it's really not hot outside, it's just warm and sunny enough to make the concrete box classroom bake like an oven. |
This winter was unusually cold and long. You must live in some sorry apartments though. I only had to put my underfloor heating on for 1-2 hours after school and that was me wearing shorts and a tee-shirt for the rest off the night and I hate the cold. |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| i've got the control panels in my classroom and the office. if i want it on, i turn it on. they did make an announcement in korean over the loud speaker the other day about the air con, however since i don't speak much korean and no one's told me about it, i'm not asking any questions. |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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What are you talking about? They don't come from a cool climate. They don't have long winters.
Are you comparing them to living on the sun??? |
Yes korea isn't cold  you are obviously a very tough person and everyone else is weak, but because YOU don't feel the cold then it isn't cold.
Korean winters are colder than back home and summers are warmer than back home (my home not yours)[/quote] |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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I was wearing a head to ankle LLBean down parka, fleece mittens, a hat, scarf, and UGG boots (ugly but warm) and was still cold, due to my room's many non-insulated windows and lack of sunlight in the winter.
My coteacher said "I've visited NYC. It's cold in the winter," to which I replied "Outside. It's cold outside. Inside nobody has to wear a coat."
Ah well... Some classrooms in my school (the newer wing) already have the AC on, but they've got southern exposure. My coteacher doesn't feel the need to push it.
It's sleeveless dresses for THIS girl! |
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