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World Traveler
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: Unhealthy living 'almost universal' in Scotland |
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"Considering five major risk factors to health - cigarette smoking, heavy alcohol consumption, poor diet, physical inactivity, and overweight - nearly the whole adult population (97.5%) have at least one behavioural risk factor." |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/scotland/10283469.stm
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The report said that among men, Scotland had more than twice as many alcohol-related deaths than England. |
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catman

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Would the Scottish diet really be any worse than England's? |
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World Traveler
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Nearly every adult in Scotland is burdened with at least one major lifestyle risk factor, and 55 percent of the population are coping with three or more, according to a study released Friday.
Looking at five health-threatening behaviours -- smoking, heavy drinking, lack of exercise, poor diet, obesity -- researchers found that twice as many Scottish men and women face a triple threat or worse than in any continental European country in which a similar study has been done.
Only in England and the United States are levels of risk even remotely close. |
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iZs8RSkUg9KKdDr56wPDnCMMATcg
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Scottish mortality rates remain the highest in Britain, despite the NHS spending �212-�267 more per person than in England, the think-tank said.
Scottish people also consumed more soft drinks and ate fewer fruit and vegetables than their English counterparts, the CPPR found. |
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5joLY1X6D5ZbRu39BbzoFQWaDs1KA |
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chellovek

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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catman wrote: |
Would the Scottish diet really be any worse than England's? |
lol. Fried mars bars. Nothing more to say. |
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NovaKart
Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Location: Iraq
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Guess Americans aren't the only fat ones anymore. The article also says that around 2/3 of the population are overweight or obese. |
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kiknkorea

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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:26 am Post subject: |
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NovaKart wrote: |
Guess Americans aren't the only fat ones anymore. The article also says that around 2/3 of the population are overweight or obese. |
It's hard to work in exercise around shots of single-malt.  |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:12 am Post subject: |
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In the 17th and 18th centuries, Scotland went from being one of the more backward and brutish European cultures to an intellectual and Enlightenment powerhouse. The redneck culture of the Deep South was inherited mostly from poor whites from Scotland and other at-the-time poor areas of the British Isles. In our time, Scotland is slowly but surely reverting to its pre-Enlightenment self. In 100 years time, Scotland and the UK in general will be totally unrecognizable. These things happen. China, on balance, is historically probably the single greatest contributor to civilized human life and yet spent most of the 20th century as a third world country. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:28 am Post subject: |
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Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
China, on balance, is historically probably the single greatest contributor to civilized human life |
Nah, America still wins that distinction by a mile.
(anyway, point taken)... |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
In the 17th and 18th centuries, Scotland went from being one of the more backward and brutish European cultures to an intellectual and Enlightenment powerhouse. The redneck culture of the Deep South was inherited mostly from poor whites from Scotland and other at-the-time poor areas of the British Isles. In our time, Scotland is slowly but surely reverting to its pre-Enlightenment self. In 100 years time, Scotland and the UK in general will be totally unrecognizable. These things happen. China, on balance, is historically probably the single greatest contributor to civilized human life and yet spent most of the 20th century as a third world country. |
I'll take your China and raise you the middle east. Specifically, the area around what was Mesopotamia. Look how that's turned out over the last 100 years+.
To the poster above: on balance, having lived in Scotland and England, I'd say that the diet in either country seems to be little different: too much fat, too much sugar, etc., etc. |
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Leon
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
In the 17th and 18th centuries, Scotland went from being one of the more backward and brutish European cultures to an intellectual and Enlightenment powerhouse. The redneck culture of the Deep South was inherited mostly from poor whites from Scotland and other at-the-time poor areas of the British Isles. In our time, Scotland is slowly but surely reverting to its pre-Enlightenment self. In 100 years time, Scotland and the UK in general will be totally unrecognizable. These things happen. China, on balance, is historically probably the single greatest contributor to civilized human life and yet spent most of the 20th century as a third world country. |
I would say much more Irish than Scottish, but this is very true. |
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chellovek

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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Leon wrote: |
Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
In the 17th and 18th centuries, Scotland went from being one of the more backward and brutish European cultures to an intellectual and Enlightenment powerhouse. The redneck culture of the Deep South was inherited mostly from poor whites from Scotland and other at-the-time poor areas of the British Isles. In our time, Scotland is slowly but surely reverting to its pre-Enlightenment self. In 100 years time, Scotland and the UK in general will be totally unrecognizable. These things happen. China, on balance, is historically probably the single greatest contributor to civilized human life and yet spent most of the 20th century as a third world country. |
I would say much more Irish than Scottish, but this is very true. |
Scotland is turning back into it's pre-enlightenment self? As far as I was aware, the Scottish Enlightenment was mainly addressed from a small intellectual elite to a European audience, not a Scottish audience. Ordinary life was no intellectual feast any more then than it is now, except for mere modern trifles like universal education, nigh-on universal literacy/numeracy etc.
Or are you referring more to how Scots invented half of the industrial revolution? (not actually part of the period in Scots history known as the Scottish Enlightenment).
Dear old Serge, I often wonder at you. |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:20 am Post subject: |
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I unwaveringly stand by my critique - every word! |
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chellovek

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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
I unwaveringly stand by my critique - every word! |
Oh you!  |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
In the 17th and 18th centuries, Scotland went from being one of the more backward and brutish European cultures to an intellectual and Enlightenment powerhouse. The redneck culture of the Deep South was inherited mostly from poor whites from Scotland and other at-the-time poor areas of the British Isles. In our time, Scotland is slowly but surely reverting to its pre-Enlightenment self. In 100 years time, Scotland and the UK in general will be totally unrecognizable. These things happen. China, on balance, is historically probably the single greatest contributor to civilized human life and yet spent most of the 20th century as a third world country. |
You are 100% correct:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/08/china_execution/
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Chinese authorities have executed a securities trader found guilty of embezzlement to the tune of $9.52m. |
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