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air76
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| Depending on where you're at most public school apartments I've seen are 2 bedrooms anyhow. |
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lithium
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| prideofidaho wrote: |
| Really? That's a real shame. I'm not trying to push my personal beliefs about marriage on people, but that's a damn shame because marriage is not the only way to live a committed lifestyle. |
WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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balzor
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| prideofidaho wrote: |
| Really? That's a real shame. I'm not trying to push my personal beliefs about marriage on people, but that's a damn shame because marriage is not the only way to live a committed lifestyle. |
In a conservative society where dating people have to sneak around in love motels, it is. |
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prideofidaho
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| balzor wrote: |
| prideofidaho wrote: |
| Really? That's a real shame. I'm not trying to push my personal beliefs about marriage on people, but that's a damn shame because marriage is not the only way to live a committed lifestyle. |
In a conservative society where dating people have to sneak around in love motels, it is. |
Thanks for your insight, but in my experience there are loads of people here, foreign and not, who cohabitate outside of marriage. I'm just saying it was a shame that they no longer work with de-facto partnerships. |
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salgichawa
Joined: 18 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| prideofidaho wrote: |
| Really? That's a real shame. I'm not trying to push my personal beliefs about marriage on people, but that's a damn shame because marriage is not the only way to live a committed lifestyle. |
Ya darn tooting
Could not agree more... |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| lithium wrote: |
| prideofidaho wrote: |
| Really? That's a real shame. I'm not trying to push my personal beliefs about marriage on people, but that's a damn shame because marriage is not the only way to live a committed lifestyle. |
WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
I agree....good luck getting into heaven if you've been living in sin for most of your life. |
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salgichawa
Joined: 18 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| air76 wrote: |
| lithium wrote: |
| prideofidaho wrote: |
| Really? That's a real shame. I'm not trying to push my personal beliefs about marriage on people, but that's a damn shame because marriage is not the only way to live a committed lifestyle. |
WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
I agree....good luck getting into heaven if you've been living in sin for most of your life. |
Hi There,
Heaven? I don't teach at a christian school. The public school is meant to be secular. Parents were concerned about us teaching about Easter.
You are touting a religious belief which others may or may not share. The pain of this is it is a Korean cultural belief.
The schools themselves manage the apartments and are entitiled to put this in the contract if they prefer it but they should be prepared that plenty of people will disagree and don't have to sign.
Mind you the stipulated money that can be taken anyway is ok. |
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prideofidaho
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I think he was kidding. ^^ |
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cassimira
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
Location: Daeso, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:44 am Post subject: |
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you can absolutely live with your partner in Korea! In fact, it might even get you nicer accomodations! I'm living with my boyfriend right now in a HUGE two bedroom apartment... even our Korean friends say our apartment is the biggest they have seen here! As others said, you might have to forgo pubi school positions. However, despite what some of the posts on this board might indicate, there are some great hagwon positions to be had. there are several hagwons that actually look for couples... your chances will be better if you're willing to live in the country.
Also, a great recruiter for couples is Saykimchee recruiting... all of the other recruiters (footprints, morgan, and a couple of others) were really inflexible about placing us as a couple. However, Lindsay actually came to Korea as part of a couple, so she knows how to sell it.... we were swamped with job offers as soon as we signed up with her. (In fact, I just posted about her on this thread: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=187142
op, pm me if you want more details/advice. |
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Korangar
Joined: 07 Apr 2010
Location: MN
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| toniyellow wrote: |
ttompatz is right, officially you can get it, unofficially you cannot, at least from my experience.
My boyfriend and I got jobs through jobs EPIK. At the interview we were asked about housing allowance as we had indicated on the application we wanted it for one of us. The EPIK guy told us straight out to change our minds or we would be passed over in favor of other candidates. We brought it up later with our recruiter, and at orientation but they make it very clear it is not really an option.
Our studio apartments are quite close - maybe 15 minutes walk. They are very different, one is an ok size with lots of natural light, the other is a dark tiny little box beside a perpetually noisy taekwondo hagwon. So getting supplied with two doubled our chances of at least one being decent.
We unplug the fridge and everything in the awful apartment and live in the other so at least save on utilities. And occasionally let people crash there. Its good if you like couchsurfing.org |
Hey toniyellow. I'm pretty sure i read a post of yours before where you said you were in Daegu, right? I was just wondering if in the interview process you told the recruiter or the EPIK interviewer that you two wanted places close to each other, and if the recruiter had any sway in that - which one was it? I'd PM you, but i'm not at a high enough post count yet. |
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injuredeagle
Joined: 25 May 2010
Location: Then: Florida Now: Daegu
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| Hey toniyellow. I'm pretty sure i read a post of yours before where you said you were in Daegu, right? I was just wondering if in the interview process you told the recruiter or the EPIK interviewer that you two wanted places close to each other, and if the recruiter had any sway in that - which one was it? I'd PM you, but i'm not at a high enough post count yet. |
I'm also interested. I'm curious if I should try and bring up how we want one of the housing allowances. Is this something done after the contract is signed, before? Should I talk to EPIK or my recruiter and hope for the best.
EPIK knows our intentions, but I'm wondering how best to push it.
Thanks alot. |
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toniyellow
Joined: 30 Sep 2009
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Hey toniyellow. I'm pretty sure i read a post of yours before where you said you were in Daegu, right? I was just wondering if in the interview process you told the recruiter or the EPIK interviewer that you two wanted places close to each other, and if the recruiter had any sway in that - which one was it? I'd PM you, but i'm not at a high enough post count yet. |
Yep, I'm in Daegu, though its good to know there's a doppelganger situation over in Mokpo. I don't think our recruiter had much to do with it (she wasn't very good), just our written application. There was a sheet at orientation they had categorised people according to their answers on the application about living nearby another person. It was reassuring to see someone actually paying attention to the paperwork and using it to the greater good.
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I'm also interested. I'm curious if I should try and bring up how we want one of the housing allowances. Is this something done after the contract is signed, before? Should I talk to EPIK or my recruiter and hope for the best.
EPIK knows our intentions, but I'm wondering how best to push it.
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I don't know if my advice will be helpful seeing as we aimed for the housing allowance and failed. Mention it to everyone you can I think.
We spoke the recruiter a bunch of times and she kept on reiterating our need to be 'flexible'. In the EPIK interview the interviewer was very frank when I said I wanted the housing allowance and told me that I should change my mind because they had so many applications and they would pass over anyone that asked for it. He was obviously a gyopo, a Korean wouldn't be that straightforward.
So we chickened out and said we would both accept housing because we wanted the job.
Maybe if you are aiming for a province that has trouble attracting people they would have more flexibility. Sometimes you are just set up to fail in Korea. They want you to think you have options but you really don't. Bureaucracy is like that anywhere are like that I suppose.
One of my co-teachers works three days at my school, two days at another, the other school she works at is getting a foreign teacher for the first time in September. She said they are looking around at studio apartments already trying to find the cheapest one close to that school. She also said that school, in particular their principal, does not want a foreign teacher and is getting one sent to them because the POE said so. I feel for the person heading into that situation. |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| air76 wrote: |
| Depending on where you're at most public school apartments I've seen are 2 bedrooms anyhow. |
I hope so, mine on Geoje is tiny... and costs 500 000 a month
I have to exercise on the balcony because my living rooms to small 
I'm hanging out for a larger apartment |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| toniyellow wrote: |
| Korangar wrote: |
Hey toniyellow. I'm pretty sure i read a post of yours before where you said you were in Daegu, right? I was just wondering if in the interview process you told the recruiter or the EPIK interviewer that you two wanted places close to each other, and if the recruiter had any sway in that - which one was it? I'd PM you, but i'm not at a high enough post count yet. |
Yep, I'm in Daegu, though its good to know there's a doppelganger situation over in Mokpo. I don't think our recruiter had much to do with it (she wasn't very good), just our written application. There was a sheet at orientation they had categorised people according to their answers on the application about living nearby another person. It was reassuring to see someone actually paying attention to the paperwork and using it to the greater good.
| injuredeagle wrote: |
I'm also interested. I'm curious if I should try and bring up how we want one of the housing allowances. Is this something done after the contract is signed, before? Should I talk to EPIK or my recruiter and hope for the best.
EPIK knows our intentions, but I'm wondering how best to push it.
Thanks alot. |
I don't know if my advice will be helpful seeing as we aimed for the housing allowance and failed. Mention it to everyone you can I think.
We spoke the recruiter a bunch of times and she kept on reiterating our need to be 'flexible'. In the EPIK interview the interviewer was very frank when I said I wanted the housing allowance and told me that I should change my mind because they had so many applications and they would pass over anyone that asked for it. He was obviously a gyopo, a Korean wouldn't be that straightforward.
So we chickened out and said we would both accept housing because we wanted the job.
Maybe if you are aiming for a province that has trouble attracting people they would have more flexibility. Sometimes you are just set up to fail in Korea. They want you to think you have options but you really don't. Bureaucracy is like that anywhere are like that I suppose.
One of my co-teachers works three days at my school, two days at another, the other school she works at is getting a foreign teacher for the first time in September. She said they are looking around at studio apartments already trying to find the cheapest one close to that school. She also said that school, in particular their principal, does not want a foreign teacher and is getting one sent to them because the POE said so. I feel for the person heading into that situation. |
When did you hear this refusal to accept the housing allowance option from EPIK? Was it last year; this year? Wonder if they're trying to control us more and more by that. Not let us have the dignity of choosing. I chose mine but have have been here for a while. Would hate to have to live in assigned housing.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=187394 |
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toniyellow
Joined: 30 Sep 2009
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This was an interview last year, for a position in March this year.
I think they're doing it to save money, not for control. I'm sure the studio they gave me would have a rent way less than 400,000. Its in a poor neighbourhood, and quite far from downtown, only bus access, no subway. |
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