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Thunndarr
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Joe Thanks
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville
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I believe it was PC world or PC something. This was in Taiwan and it as in the summer of 2003.
Same exact tests and the opposite was true.
NOT ALL DVD players accept DVD-R, contray to your link. In fact, Joe did his own test and found that between two DVD-R ficks burned with the same software as two DVD+R - between a laptop DVD-R drive, a set top DVD player from China which plays most formats including SVCD, and a PS2 - only one of the DVD-R were playable in any unit (the computer). DVD+R played in all without a hitch.
Joe has also burned several hundred DVD+R and +RW on a set top recorder and in two different burners (one abck on his PC in the states, and one he brought here). I'd roughly guess I've burned about 300 discs. I've had 3 - and only 3 - fail on me, and that was during the MASTERING process because they were actually faulty discs.
I can't link the PCWorld or PC whatever article nor remember the exact rag's name - though it is sitting in a box tucked away in cold stoarge with Joe's other things back in the states, but it was in the hard copy. Can't play tit-for-tat with you for links on that.
vcdhelp.com has more facts that contradict your survey as well.
Guess you're a bit wacky to start labling Joe wacky.
Joe
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Joe thanks, where do you get your info? Tom's Hardware Guide lists DVD-R as being more compatible. Here's the link of the actual tests.
http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/20031027/dvd_burner-40.html
Edit: Some additional info from the same article.
'However, our results show that the movies written to DVD+R by the burners were not readable for every DVD player - whereas the DVD-Rs were. '
And, finally, you can reach page one of the article here.
http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20031027/index.html
At least, according to this website, DVD-R is the way to go for compatibility reasons. Maybe those wacky Koreans aren't so wacky huh? |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I burned my first "Coaster" today. It was a 4x DVD+R disc.
Might not have been the discs fault, though. Somehow my computer shut itself off last night either during or after the encoding process. It appeared to have encoded everything, since the info filled the disc. I'll have to try it again tonight -- maybe I just had a computer shutdown glitch when I slept.
I went ahead and burned a disc based on the info. anyway.... didn't work. The opening screen played, but that's it.
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| That's the good thing about rewritables. They're a bit more expensive, but you don't have to worry they'll get toasted if something goes wrong. I've had good luck with DVD+RW discs and my living room DVD player - no problems playing discs back at all. |
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Joe Thanks
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Are you using a dual system burner, as in +R and -R, or an exclusive +R burner?
The reality is that you will have "coasters" regardless of the format and even the media (CD-R for example).
There's no way around that, but if it's a pattern then you might have some issues.
Joe's point was- and has been - that there is a higher rejection rate/compatibility rate of DVD-Rs, not even the mastering but the media won't even get recognized an a surprisingly large number of set top players and computers.
I wonder if the industry is rectifying this with newer models.
Joe
has spoken
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I burned my first "Coaster" today. It was a 4x DVD+R disc.
Might not have been the discs fault, though. Somehow my computer shut itself off last night either during or after the encoding process. It appeared to have encoded everything, since the info filled the disc. I'll have to try it again tonight -- maybe I just had a computer shutdown glitch when I slept.
I went ahead and burned a disc based on the info. anyway.... didn't work. The opening screen played, but that's it.
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| NOT ALL DVD players accept DVD-R, contray to your link. In fact, Joe did his own test and found that between two DVD-R ficks burned with the same software as two DVD+R - between a laptop DVD-R drive, a set top DVD player from China which plays most formats including SVCD, and a PS2 - only one of the DVD-R were playable in any unit (the computer). DVD+R played in all without a hitch. |
So, let me count. Your compatibility test includes....a whole whopping 3 dvd players? This is your counter argument? My link to Tom's Hardware tests compatibility with NINE different players for compatibility.
My second link tests, let's check...
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These discs were then played back in other DVD players and DVD-ROM drives � over a 1,000 combinations of drive, media and player were tested.
The content created on a DVD-R/RW writer using a write once DVD-R disc played back in virtually all (96.1 percent) of the DVD players and DVD-ROM drives used in the research. DVD+R discs played back in 87.6 percent of the devices tested.
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Over 1,000 different combinations of media and drives. How many have you done Joe?
Or perhaps you are more interested in 'being right' than in actually learning new information? Perhaps you belive that your own anecdotal evidence is superior to scientific testing?
At this point, you aren't even arguing with me, you're just arguing against facts. My facts>>>your facts.
Joe
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Joe Thanks
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Innacurate sock puppet say what?
Joe
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and Ookla the Mock isn't happy with your bogosity
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| NOT ALL DVD players accept DVD-R, contray to your link. In fact, Joe did his own test and found that between two DVD-R ficks burned with the same software as two DVD+R - between a laptop DVD-R drive, a set top DVD player from China which plays most formats including SVCD, and a PS2 - only one of the DVD-R were playable in any unit (the computer). DVD+R played in all without a hitch. |
So, let me count. Your compatibility test includes....a whole whopping 3 dvd players? This is your counter argument? My link to Tom's Hardware tests compatibility with NINE different players for compatibility.
My second link tests, let's check...
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These discs were then played back in other DVD players and DVD-ROM drives ?over a 1,000 combinations of drive, media and player were tested.
The content created on a DVD-R/RW writer using a write once DVD-R disc played back in virtually all (96.1 percent) of the DVD players and DVD-ROM drives used in the research. DVD+R discs played back in 87.6 percent of the devices tested.
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Over 1,000 different combinations of media and drives. How many have you done Joe?
Or perhaps you are more interested in 'being right' than in actually learning new information? Perhaps you belive that your own anecdotal evidence is superior to scientific testing?
At this point, you aren't even arguing with me, you're just arguing against facts. My facts>>>your facts.
Joe
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Innacurate sock puppet say what?
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Translation: I can't support my argument so I'll just start slinging insults.
Well done. Cue golf clap.
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