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Senior



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:
pangaea wrote:

m3erds wrote:
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based on the pictures, id say they were sugar gliders


But by all means, continue to argue over a situation that doesn't actually exist.


Sugar gliders do not exist in Korea.
There are only 3 "squirrel-types' found in korea.
The red squirrel, the flying squirrel, and the siberian chipmunk.
The OP said they were a gliding animal.
Only "gliding animal" (excluding bats) in Korea (and indeed the whole of Eurasia)..is the flying squirrel.

They live in the NE of the country anround the taebek mountains, and have been much reduced in numbers by pesticides which have eliminated the food they eat.
In Korea its common for people to go find and pick up creatures they find in the wild then either show them off or try to hawk them on the streets out of a sack. usually the poor creature dies because people don't know how to look after them. Nor should they be: they should have left them where they were, in their natural habitat.


Stop making a fool of yourself.

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Outside Australia, the Sugar Glider is a popular domestic pet because of its lively and inquisitive nature....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Glider

Frankly, the last part of your post comes across as highly prejudiced.
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senior wrote:
We don't even know 100% what animal it was. Maybe it was a common old squirrel or chip munk.

Squirrels and chipmunks do not glide, genius.

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Maybe he came by it legally.

There is no legal way to "come by" a flying squirrel. And removing endangered species to take home and hawk them out of a bag on the crowded city streets on a hot day does not help them.


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EDIT: It seems that we do know what the animal is (sugar glider, a decidedly unendangered species) and that once again you have no idea what you are talking about.


"Sugar gliders" do not exist in Korea, genius.

They are marsupials that live in Australia and new guinea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Glider

Better keep your expert commentary for your hamster.
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Senior



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read the rest of the Wikipedia article, please. Shouldn't take you longer than 40 minutes. I'll hang around for my apology.
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air76



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found myself engaged in arguments about some pretty dumb stuff here on Dave's ESL....but this thread is awesome.

"Well here's a link to my doctoral thesis, which just so happened to be on squirrels and chipmunks....."
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senior wrote:
Read the rest of the Wikipedia article, please. Shouldn't take you longer than 40 minutes. I'll hang around for my apology.


Your article states that sugar gliders are kept as pets in North america.

Are we in north america? I didn't realise. Quick, switch the football on.
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Senior



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:
Senior wrote:
Read the rest of the Wikipedia article, please. Shouldn't take you longer than 40 minutes. I'll hang around for my apology.


Your article states that sugar gliders are kept as pets in North america.

Are we in north america? I didn't realise. Quick, switch the football on.


It is difficult to find info about sugar gliders in Korea. However, here are two blog articles about the topic.
http://annyeong-haseyo-hyoja.blogspot.com/2010/02/sugar-glider-man-of-insadong.html
http://iowa-girl-in-korea.blogspot.com/2009/03/sugar-glider-man.html

It would seem that, yes, sugar gliders are kept as pets in Korea.

You can make that apology anytime.
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pangaea



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senior wrote:
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Stop making a fool of yourself.


I was referring to the fact that you and another poster are arguing over a man the OP saw having an endangered animal when in fact, neither of you knows what animal the OP actually saw. It seems from the conversation here that it could indeed have been a sugar glider, which is most decidedly not an endangered species native to Korea and probably should not be released into the wild. Though I do appreciate the informative zoology lesson, you quite obviously missed my point. Though I do agree that wild animals should be kept in the wild, jumping to conclusions and engaging in a heated argument over a situation that might or might not exist is just silly.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pangaea wrote:
Senior wrote:
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Stop making a fool of yourself.


I was referring to the fact that you and another poster are arguing over a man the OP saw having an endangered animal when in fact, neither of you knows what animal the OP actually saw. It seems from the conversation here that it could indeed have been a sugar glider, which is most decidedly not an endangered species native to Korea and probably should not be released into the wild. Though I do appreciate the informative zoology lesson, you quite obviously missed my point. Though I do agree that wild animals should be kept in the wild, jumping to conclusions and engaging in a heated argument over a situation that might or might not exist is just silly.


That comment wasn't directed at you, if that is what you think. I've been working under the assumption that it was a sugar glider for some time now. The OP identified it and I showed some blog posts of them in Korea. It seems that they are almost certainly kept as pets in Korea.

Now we have that cleared up, Nautilus owes every one a big apology.
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air76



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senior wrote:
Now we have that cleared up, Nautilus owes every one a big apology.


I, Air76, apologize for every stupid or inaccurate statement that I have ever posted on Dave's ESL.

Phew, I am glad that I got that off my chest.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

air76 wrote:
Senior wrote:
Now we have that cleared up, Nautilus owes every one a big apology.


I, Air76, apologize for every stupid or inaccurate statement that I have ever posted on Dave's ESL.

Phew, I am glad that I got that off my chest.


As far as I can remember, you don't go around calling people names and acting like a jerk towards other posters (except for writing 300 word diatribes perhaps Laughing ), therefore, no need to apologize.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senior wrote:
As far as I can remember, you don't go around calling people names and acting like a jerk towards other posters (except for writing 300 word diatribes perhaps Laughing ), therefore, no need to apologize.


Actually, funnily enough, I disagree....I act like a jerk ALL THE TIME on here. I often provide helpful information or engage in pseudo-intelligent debates or sell books and video games, but I am definitely guilty of being a jerk quite often, especially as I become more fed up with living in Korea and my angst grows.

Just today I commented on someone's Buy/Sell/Trade post that I have no sympathy when people who engage in such financial wizardry end up with no real savings as they live in an endless quest to one up the Jones's. (He was selling a $500 phone that he just bought in January because he upgraded and bought another $500 phone....the new phone was probably more than that really.) It was none of my business whatsoever...he's just trying to sell his phone, and not ask my approval of his retarded spending habits.

Acting like a jerk is part of what makes this place fun....in real life I am not a jerk and I don't engage in ridiculous, pedantic arguments about things I could give a flyin' fart about....but here....man, I'll argue until I'm blue in the face about which kind of squirrel is which. I was not actually in this pedantic argument, but I very well could have been.

When someone in the real world says something that I deem to be unintelligent I don't get all up in their grill and scream "ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! Let me count the reasons why you're an imbecile!"

I often want to......but I don't. This is not how a civilized person behaves.

But here? It's no holds barred. Be a jerk, take out the rage you feel towards your incompetent co-workers on some ignorant noob who has been in Korea for 3 months and thinks they know everything there is to know about this place.

Know a waygook that you'd like to punch in the face as he blabbers on about how often he's eaten dog? Well....civilized people don't punch other people in the face, not even when they deserve it....so, you come on here and argue with PatrickGHBusan until it makes you feel better.

But Senior (if you're still reading, as I know you find my responses to be a tad bit verbose), I will fully admit that in real life I do tend to ramble off extensive diatribes on virtually an hourly basis.
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DorkothyParker



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG! Cute animals should be kept in my wild loving arms!


Sorry, I just go crazy for pictures of cute animals. Carry on with whatever.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

air76 wrote:
Senior wrote:
As far as I can remember, you don't go around calling people names and acting like a jerk towards other posters (except for writing 300 word diatribes perhaps Laughing ), therefore, no need to apologize.


Actually, funnily enough, I disagree....I act like a jerk ALL THE TIME on here. I often provide helpful information or engage in pseudo-intelligent debates or sell books and video games, but I am definitely guilty of being a jerk quite often, especially as I become more fed up with living in Korea and my angst grows.

Just today I commented on someone's Buy/Sell/Trade post that I have no sympathy when people who engage in such financial wizardry end up with no real savings as they live in an endless quest to one up the Jones's. (He was selling a $500 phone that he just bought in January because he upgraded and bought another $500 phone....the new phone was probably more than that really.) It was none of my business whatsoever...he's just trying to sell his phone, and not ask my approval of his retarded spending habits.

Acting like a jerk is part of what makes this place fun....in real life I am not a jerk and I don't engage in ridiculous, pedantic arguments about things I could give a flyin' fart about....but here....man, I'll argue until I'm blue in the face about which kind of squirrel is which. I was not actually in this pedantic argument, but I very well could have been.

When someone in the real world says something that I deem to be unintelligent I don't get all up in their grill and scream "ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! Let me count the reasons why you're an imbecile!"

I often want to......but I don't. This is not how a civilized person behaves.

But here? It's no holds barred. Be a jerk, take out the rage you feel towards your incompetent co-workers on some ignorant noob who has been in Korea for 3 months and thinks they know everything there is to know about this place.

Know a waygook that you'd like to punch in the face as he blabbers on about how often he's eaten dog? Well....civilized people don't punch other people in the face, not even when they deserve it....so, you come on here and argue with PatrickGHBusan until it makes you feel better.

But Senior (if you're still reading, as I know you find my responses to be a tad bit verbose), I will fully admit that in real life I do tend to ramble off extensive diatribes on virtually an hourly basis.


tl;dr
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senior wrote:
I've been working under the assumption that it was a sugar glider for some time now.


actually your assumption was
Quote:
.. it was a common old squirrel or chip munk


So in actual fact you were wrong. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:
Senior wrote:
I've been working under the assumption that it was a sugar glider for some time now.


actually your assumption was
Quote:
.. it was a common old squirrel or chip munk


So in actual fact you were wrong. sorry mr Senior. Laughing


Stop making a fool of yourself. Blatantly mis-quoting me isn't going to save you. I didn't assume anything. I said "Maybe it was a common old squirrel or chip munk." As in, we don't actually know what it was.

However, now we do know. We know it was a sugar glider. A decidedly unendangered species which is kept as pets in many countries, one of which, it seems, is Korea.
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