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discostar23
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:58 pm Post subject: toefl certificates |
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| hey, i need to do the toefl program...anyone know of an online course i can take, that won't cost me an arm & a leg, and that is half decent by Korean teaching standards? |
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JackSarang
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:51 am Post subject: Re: toefl certificates |
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| discostar23 wrote: |
| hey, i need to do the toefl program...anyone know of an online course i can take, that won't cost me an arm & a leg, and that is half decent by Korean teaching standards? |
You don't "need" to do a TOEFL/TEFL program at all. There is no such thing as a "half-decent" one by Korean standards unless you want to fork over and arm and a leg for a real one the CELTA.
If you just want it to pad your resume, then just make one up, call it "Hyper-Global TEFL Certificate" and be done with it. I have a legitimate TESOL certificate and having it on my resume has been a plus in my experience, but they've never asked to see it. Even if they did, there is no standardization or accreditation so you can just print one up from photoshop.
If you want to take a course to "learn how to teach ESL", then its a waste of money. The stuff you learn in a TESOL/TEFL course has zero bearing on Korean Hogwon teaching. |
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discostar23
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I am looking to be teaching at a university and I have been told i need one to do so |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| discostar23 wrote: |
| I am looking to be teaching at a university and I have been told i need one to do so |
don't quite follow. Have you been guaranteed a university position if you get a TEFL certificate, or has someone told you uni jobs are available to TEFL certificate holders? At our school, and (I think) most others, non-MA/MEd holders are in the minority. |
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discostar23
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| The Lemon wrote: |
| discostar23 wrote: |
| I am looking to be teaching at a university and I have been told i need one to do so |
don't quite follow. Have you been guaranteed a university position if you get a TEFL certificate, or has someone told you uni jobs are available to TEFL certificate holders? At our school, and (I think) most others, non-MA/MEd holders are in the minority. |
well, actually was just told that it's beneficial to the resume when seeking out teaching positions, especially in a university type setting is all...I've been told there are cheap ones available online... |
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Toby
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Manchester University offers something you may want to look at. DELTA - 500 pounds. I think it is Manchester anyway. |
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mourningclam
Joined: 27 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| You need to get a CELTA and 1200 hours of post CELTA experience before you can get a DELTA. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| discostar23 wrote: |
well, actually was just told that it's beneficial to the resume when seeking out teaching positions, especially in a university type setting is all...I've been told there are cheap ones available online... |
They're not wrong, but you might want to talk to some universities about this before putting down good money. Like I said, most (though not all) of the time it's a Masters degree that gets university jobs. Even a BA + CELTA would be stretching it at many universities. To see what I mean, check out the websites of universities - these tend to list their foreign teachers, and the credentials they hold.
You'll certainly find BA+TEFL teachers in universities, but not many of them. |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| I have a BA + CELTA, but I think the reason I was hired (3 years ago) was my 3 years experience teaching in Korea. |
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| I have a CELTA, but I don't think it was a factor for me getting hired. People in Korea don't really seem to care about certs, even universities. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| mourningclam wrote: |
| You need to get a CELTA and 1200 hours of post CELTA experience before you can get a DELTA. |
sweet |
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mourningclam
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| I have a CELTA too, but most schools just require you to smile and look pretty, who cares if you have little or no language awareness. They could really give a rats ass if you have any sort of teaching cert. as far as extra money is concerned. If you go to China, you could get more money based upon your certification from what I've seen. |
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