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edamron
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 Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:12 pm Post subject: yeungnam university; your thoughts? |
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Hi--
Any thoughts on Yeungnam University, esp. the sociology dept.?
Thanks!
-e |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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I live in the same town.
From what I understand it is not the best place to work right now. |
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Captain Obvious
Joined: 23 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't they just fire 25 foreign teachers all at once because they dared to complain about one supervisor? |
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Sadebugo1
Joined: 11 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: yeungnam university; your thoughts? |
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| edamron wrote: |
Hi--
Any thoughts on Yeungnam University, esp. the sociology dept.?
Thanks!
-e |
I used to work in Taegu and this university always had a bad rep. Can't say for sure now.
Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/ |
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Koreaboundandgagged
Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Location: USA
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| Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:46 am Post subject: Yeungnam = Unigwon |
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Master-degreed people have left this place by the flocks since a new director (Korean)/head teacher (Canadian) showed up...including myself. In return, hagwon/public school teachers that want a shot at a uni gig have been flocking in, only to find that their day-to-day lives are more stressful and demanding than their previous gigs. The days of having an MA and 20 weeks off/year are now gone. Two years ago when I started it was the probably one of the best jobs in Korea; surely the best contract outside of Seoul. Now MA's are required to work one break just as the BA people. However, the 12 hours/week for an MA is a bit of a misnomer as professors are now required to do a ton of busy work, including a 10+ page "research paper" for a campuswide publication. The poor BA people are required to do all of this work as well while they juggle 18-22 hours teaching/week. I don't even want to get into the actual restructuring of the teaching that has ruined the one time closeness professors were able to develop with the students.
I'm all for "professional development," but this busy work is a joke. They don't even consider the pursuit of an MA professional development. Unless you're desperate for a uni gig, steer clear from Yeungnam and pursue some of the smaller uni gigs around Gyeongsan where you'll be treated with respect and not considered just a disposable body. Don't get me wrong, the majority of the students are great, but a as they say, one rotten apple can easily spoil the bunch. In this case, there are two rotten apples that have ruined the entire 35+ strong MA's that were once eager to teach when they felt appreciated.
If you don't have an MA and want to be tied to a whipping post for two months off/year, go for it. I'd recommend instead finding a good public school gig that will give you more time off and really appreciate your presence.
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TheFoodie
Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Location: Ebay Central
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: Re: Yeungnam = Unigwon |
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| Koreaboundandgagged wrote: |
Master-degreed people have left this place by the flocks since a new directory (Korean)/head teacher (Canadia) showed up...including myself. In return, hagwon/public school teachers that want a shot at a uni gig have been flocking in, only to find that their day-to-day lives are more stressful and demanding than their previous gigs. The days of having an MA and 20 weeks off/year are now gone. Two years ago when I started it was the probably one of the best jobs in Korea; surely the best contract outside of Seoul. Now MA's are required to work one break just as the BA people. However, the 12 hours/week for an MA is a bit of a misnomer as professors are now required to do a ton of busy work, including a 10+ page "research paper" for a campuswide publication. The poor BA people are required to do all of this work as well while they juggle 18-22 hours teaching/week. I don't even want to get into the actual restructuring of the teaching that has ruined the one time closeness professors were able to develop with the students.
I'm all for "professional development," but this busy work is a joke. They don't even consider the pursuit of an MA professional development. Unless you're desperate for a uni gig, steer clear from Yeungnam and pursue some of the smaller uni gigs around Gyeongsan where you'll be treated with respect and not considered just a disposable body. Don't get me wrong, the majority of the students are great, but a as they say, one rotten apple can easily spoil the bunch. In this case, there are two rotten apples that have ruined the entire 35+ strong MA's that were once eager to teach when they felt appreciated.
If you don't have an MA and want to be tied to a whipping post for two months off/year, go for it. I'd recommend instead finding a good public school gig that will give you more time off and really appreciate your presence. |
Tried PM-ing you about this but don't have enough posts as yet. Would be grateful if you could send me a message as I have some questions about this outfit... |
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makemischief
Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: Traveling
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Have the old threads been deleted on this? Koreaboundandgagged is right on. It's currently a horror show. Avoid. |
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yesman
Joined: 15 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| Have the old threads been deleted on this? Koreaboundandgagged is right on. It's currently a horror show. Avoid. |
I haven't ever searched for old threads about Yeungnam, but I have seen some adverts from them. I'm guessing if they were deleted it was due to a conflict of interest at Dave's over advertising dollars.
If so, that sucks for the teachers who are trying to get info.
Perhaps this one's next on the chopping block? |
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:03 am Post subject: Re: Yeungnam = Unigwon |
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| Koreaboundandgagged wrote: |
Master-degreed people have left this place by the flocks since a new director (Korean)/head teacher (Canadian) showed up...including myself. In return, hagwon/public school teachers that want a shot at a uni gig have been flocking in, only to find that their day-to-day lives are more stressful and demanding than their previous gigs. The days of having an MA and 20 weeks off/year are now gone. Two years ago when I started it was the probably one of the best jobs in Korea; surely the best contract outside of Seoul. Now MA's are required to work one break just as the BA people. However, the 12 hours/week for an MA is a bit of a misnomer as professors are now required to do a ton of busy work, including a 10+ page "research paper" for a campuswide publication. The poor BA people are required to do all of this work as well while they juggle 18-22 hours teaching/week. I don't even want to get into the actual restructuring of the teaching that has ruined the one time closeness professors were able to develop with the students.
I'm all for "professional development," but this busy work is a joke. They don't even consider the pursuit of an MA professional development. Unless you're desperate for a uni gig, steer clear from Yeungnam and pursue some of the smaller uni gigs around Gyeongsan where you'll be treated with respect and not considered just a disposable body.
Don't get me wrong, the majority of the students are great, but a as they say, one rotten apple can easily spoil the bunch. In this case, there are two rotten apples that have ruined the entire 35+ strong MA's that were once eager to teach when they felt appreciated.
If you don't have an MA and want to be tied to a whipping post for two months off/year, go for it. I'd recommend instead finding a good public school gig that will give you more time off and really appreciate your presence. |
Just to clarify which section / department we are talking about here, it is the Foreign Language Institute right?
Or does this also include the English Department? |
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: Yeungnam = Unigwon |
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| Koreaboundandgagged wrote: |
Master-degreed people have left this place by the flocks since a new director (Korean)/head teacher (Canadian) showed up...including myself.
Now MA's are required to work one break just as the BA people. However, the 12 hours/week for an MA is a bit of a misnomer as professors are now required to do a ton of busy work, including a 10+ page "research paper" for a campuswide publication. The poor BA people are required to do all of this work as well while they juggle 18-22 hours teaching/week.
I'm all for "professional development," but this busy work is a joke. They don't even consider the pursuit of an MA professional development. In this case, there are two rotten apples that have ruined the entire 35+ strong MA's that were once eager to teach when they felt appreciated. |
Was a lot of this extra compulsory Seminar Presentation, Research Paper for the in-house journal, Peer Observation and Head Teacher Class Observation generated by the Canadian Head Teacher? Is s/he doing this to help them with a Master's Thesis?
Frankly, this is bizarre. I know that we are not "real" professors in Korea and that we do not have any real status in universities, but I've never heard of university teachers being subject to Chair/Dept. Head, or Peer teaching evaluations. Not two or three times an academic year - Not even once!
Micro Management at it's worst. I got into teaching at universities because of the personal and professional autonomy that it affords instructors. If I wanted to be micro managed, I'd go back to teaching at Berlitz or Nova.
Sounds like teaching at a typical Hogwan where we had to do demos and receive feedback on our teaching in order for our contracts to be renewed.
And who ever heard of a "Head Teacher" in a university! |
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makemischief
Joined: 04 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: Yeungnam = Unigwon |
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| Shimokitazawa wrote: |
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And who ever heard of a "Head Teacher" in a university! |
While I agree with most of what you wrote, many uni English/Language departments (both unigwon and full department) do have a "head teacher", at least in Korea. Not saying it isn't a potentially silly and unnecessary postion, just that it is very common to have one. |
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languistic
Joined: 25 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| Are you thinking of buying, selling or trading said university? |
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stephenpoi
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Location: Cheongju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| languistic wrote: |
| Are you thinking of buying, selling or trading said university? |
LOL...
I thought the same thing....LOL |
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Informer
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Bundang
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: yeungnam university; your thoughts? |
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| edamron wrote: |
Hi--
Any thoughts on Yeungnam University, esp. the sociology dept.?
Thanks!
-e |
FYI -Wrong forum. |
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xpat
Joined: 13 Mar 2008
Location: Kangnam baby
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: yeungnam university; your thoughts? |
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| Informer wrote: |
| edamron wrote: |
Hi--
Any thoughts on Yeungnam University, esp. the sociology dept.?
Thanks!
-e |
FYI -Wrong forum. |
This was in the Jobs-related Discussion Forum and then disappeared. My guess is that it was moved by a miss-click or something.
Anyway, back to the O.P.. The person asked about the Sociology department but most of the harsh posts seem to be about the English or Foreign Language Institute. Which department is it that is so bad? Gives us the heads up. |
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