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goingtothecountry
Joined: 15 Aug 2010
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Saving money is all good and fine but what do you plan on doing, staying in your apartment watching tv all day and night? If you're the outdoorsy type and like going hiking and mountain climbing and all that I don't think that budget will even cover one meal. And if you drink, start getting used to soju.  |
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thegadfly

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say budget 10,000 won a day rather than 6,000, but shoot for 6. Any day you are under 10, toss that in your weekend kitty. 10 or less is doable most normal days, but 6 is a stretch.
At 10, you hit your mark most days, and feel good about "saving" toward your weekend. At 6, you will probably go over by at least a few hundred won on a fairly frequent basis, and will feel bad for "missing your mark," or else, you will forego the little things that might make a day brighter (a cup of instant, 200 won coffee from the machine, a bus ride instead of walking across town, a taxi ride instead of a bus, one more roll of kimbop, a bottle of soju, whatever) just to hit the mark....
Northway is right about the higher costs of some of your basic items, but there are also things that are discounted. If you shop at E-mart in the last hour or so before they close, a lot of things get discounted. For example, the marinated meats (bulgogi (beef), nam yong taeji kalbi(pork)) are about 12k per package, and I get 5 or 6 meals from one package (with rice, of course). An hour before close, I have gotten the packages at 2 for 1 -- so 12k for meat for 12 meals. Portion into baggies and freeze, and you have some meat to go with your rice, at 1k a meal....
The open-air markets or local versions of them can also have cheap produce at times -- shop around. Even a few "service" servings tossed in will make it easier to live on a budget. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Can I Live like this: Weekly Budget from Cheaposaurus Re |
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KwardBound wrote: |
eggs, chicken, tuna, potatoes, bananas, peanuts, oats, rice, etc. These are my basic things and I'm sure they can't cost too much, right? Its all about preparation anyway. If I spend the first 2 weeks stocking things up then I'm the type that will be pretty much set for the rest of the year.
btw, I will check out your blog: OnlyinKorea87 |
Meat (of any kind) is NOT cheap. $1-2 per 100 grams for the cheapest stuff you can find. How does $8 per pound for regular hamburger sound?
Fruits are EXPENSIVE. Apples or oranges are $1 each. Bananas aren't much better.
Oats (as in quaker/rolled oats) are hard to find and cost about $10/kilo. If you mean as whole grains you are pretty much SOL.
Potatoes are cheap - as in $3-5 per kilo.
Rice in small quantities cost $3-5 per kilo (you can get better prices if you buy 20kg at a time).
You better wait till you get here before you balance your budget or just stay in Queens.
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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KwardBound wrote: |
1 year in and 1 year out.
Even if I fall in love with Korea, I can only stay for 1 year and have to settle with just returning to Korea years later.
Uh, right now in NYC, I am saving $1,500-$2000 per month. I'm on an un-steady budget, so I basically only spend $500 per month. Also, the money that I am saving will be categorized. Part of it will be reserved for travel. |
You won't save US$2000 a month in Korea. If your reason for the move is to have a cultural experience you won't have much of one for 6000won a day.
Why not either scale down your savings goal from 20K closer to 15, or just stay home and save 20+? |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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verloc wrote: |
The OP sounds like a fun guy to go out for a drink with. As long as you're paying, that is. |
There are plenty of that type of waygook for sure - Every single one of them from the United States has been my personal experience - this is not a knock on Americans by the way but every tight fisted, bill dodging arsehole has been United Statesian in my experience - I know a generous American - but he is only one person! And I have not found this problem with other nationalities.
So the OP is joining a very big and experienced club. |
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mm
Joined: 01 Jul 2010
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Why are you so concerned with saving money?
I use to be 'friends' with the cheapest guy possible. He was a dirty hippiesh guy from California. He didn't buy new clothes or books. Even in the middle of winter he refused to buy a winter coat. Only spent his money on enough food to survive and maybe a night out once a month. He lived next to his school so he didn't have to pay for buses and rarely left his house. He managed to save 17 million won in one year and even went on a ten day vacation to Thailand, where he had to miss school and pay for a replacement. He was making 2.4 a month plus free housing.
But who wants to live that kind of lifestyle.
You can easily save a million won a month on a 2.5 million salary. |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:19 am Post subject: |
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wiganer wrote: |
verloc wrote: |
The OP sounds like a fun guy to go out for a drink with. As long as you're paying, that is. |
There are plenty of that type of waygook for sure - Every single one of them from the United States has been my personal experience - this is not a knock on Americans by the way but every tight fisted, bill dodging arsehole has been United Statesian in my experience - I know a generous American - but he is only one person! And I have not found this problem with other nationalities.
So the OP is joining a very big and experienced club. |
You may not have intended this as a knock on Americans, but that is exactly how it reads.
Could we keep the generalizations and insults to a minimum, please? |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Reise-ohne-Ende wrote: |
You may not have intended this as a knock on Americans, but that is exactly how it reads. |
So? Is truth not a defence anymore?
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Could we keep the generalizations and insults to a minimum, please? |
I bet if I was talking about those dastardly Canadians, you wouldn't have pipped up. You will find a lot of people who have the same experiences as me in regards their tight fisted American pals... look at the OP - where is he from again?
And the vast majority of posts on here about 'saving money' and being cheapistas are made by that one nationality again and again... |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:29 am Post subject: |
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wiganer wrote: |
Reise-ohne-Ende wrote: |
You may not have intended this as a knock on Americans, but that is exactly how it reads. |
So? Is truth not a defence anymore?
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Could we keep the generalizations and insults to a minimum, please? |
I bet if I was talking about those dastardly Canadians, you wouldn't have pipped up. You will find a lot of people who have the same experiences as me in regards their tight fisted American pals... look at the OP - where is he from again?
And the vast majority of posts on here about 'saving money' and being cheapistas are made by that one nationality again and again... |
Probably because we vastly outnumber every other nationality on here?
Either way, most of the Americans (and Canadians) that I'm around here tend to spend money like it's their job, even the ones with significant bills to pay back home. |
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Space Cowboy
Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Location: On the blessed hellride
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:32 am Post subject: |
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wiganer wrote: |
verloc wrote: |
The OP sounds like a fun guy to go out for a drink with. As long as you're paying, that is. |
There are plenty of that type of waygook for sure - Every single one of them from the United States has been my personal experience - this is not a knock on Americans by the way but every tight fisted, bill dodging arsehole has been United Statesian in my experience - I know a generous American - but he is only one person! And I have not found this problem with other nationalities.
So the OP is joining a very big and experienced club. |
Please consult the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:39 am Post subject: |
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<3
wiganer, the general rule of thumb is that it's impolite to throw out negative character judgments about large groups of people based on your own limited personal experiences.
Calling someone an 'arsehole' would, I believe, fall under this category.
ETA: full disclosure, normally I would not bother addressing behavior like this on the internet as it tends not to help much, but it makes me unhappy that one of the primary spaces for EFL teachers in Korea has a reputation for being nasty and divisive. I figure it's worth doing everything I can to ensure that we give a good first impression to our community as well as to potential expats looking for advice here. ^^
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conrad2
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:43 am Post subject: |
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In regards to cheap Americans in Korea, my experience has been the exact opposite. Its always the Brits, Canucks, and especially the Kiwis who are the most embarrassingly cheap. Im talking about shirking your financial repsonsibilities when out driking with the group, not paying your share or sometimes at all. Or breaking the bill down to the minutae. I have seen some shameful displays. I think it would be hard to call Americans as a whole cheap considering the average amount of consumer debt they hold. |
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Reise-ohne-Ende
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:51 am Post subject: |
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conrad2 wrote: |
In regards to cheap Americans in Korea, my experience has been the exact opposite. Its always the Brits, Canucks, and especially the Kiwis who are the most embarrassingly cheap. Im talking about shirking your financial repsonsibilities when out driking with the group, not paying your share or sometimes at all. Or breaking the bill down to the minutae. I have seen some shameful displays. I think it would be hard to call Americans as a whole cheap considering the average amount of consumer debt they hold. |
Again, I think that boils down to individual differences and not anything on a national level. In my personal experience, I haven't noticed any nationality being cheaper than any other - well, except I've noticed my Korean friends are far more generous in general than I tend to be! And even if I had seen any trends, there are so many mitigating factors that make it impossible to ascribe a character trait like that on an entire group of people.
Anyway, your point about the consumer debt accumulated by Americans is salient, and I'm certainly an example of that. Last Sunday, literally five minutes after I decided not to spend any more money that day, I bought a beautiful fan from a street vendor because I felt I couldn't pass it up. Well at least I'm hovering around 50k won at the end of a pay period now instead of sinking into the red! ^^ Baby steps... |
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sojusucks

Joined: 31 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:47 am Post subject: |
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KwardBound wrote: |
I've calculated how much I would earn a month, minus socializing, minus necessities, and I see myself saving a minimum of $20k USD during the 1 year. |
Have you factored in the exchange rate? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:57 am Post subject: |
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sojusucks wrote: |
KwardBound wrote: |
I've calculated how much I would earn a month, minus socializing, minus necessities, and I see myself saving a minimum of $20k USD during the 1 year. |
Have you factored in the exchange rate? |
Yeah, I don't think it's possible to save that much if you're a first timer, as the OP would appear to be. With the exchange rate as of today, a starting salary of 2.2 (pretty standard) gets you about $24,000 US for a year. It strikes me as pretty much impossible to live on 4.6 million for a year. Even if he's only going out once every two weeks to spend the 100,000 he suggested, that's still $2,000 gone right there. The most frugal people I've known have lived on about 600,000 a month. I suppose you could go lower than that, but life isn't going to be fun. |
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