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woozie
Joined: 06 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:54 pm Post subject: YBM ELS (Bupyeong, Incheon) vs. CDI April (Hwamyeong, Busan) |
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Need some help deciding on who to sign with, YBM or CDI. Found tons of stuff online, but nothing up to date or particular to these locations. Anything would help. Thanks!
My main concerns are:
1-company: YBM vs. CDI
2-teaching: kids vs. adults(conversational)
3-location: Incheon(Bupyeong) vs. Busan(Hwamyeong)
job details:
YBM Incheon (Bupyeong Branch)
www.ybmhr.co.kr/company/BupyeoungELS.asp
Salary: 2.1-2.4M
Students: adults (language institute/conversational english only)
Classes: Mon-Fri(split-shifts)
Maximum number of students: 5-10
Teaching requirements: 105-120hours
Vacation: 8-10 YBM holidays + all National holidays
Training: 3-6 days(6hours a day) 30,000won per day
Airfare: Air ticket will be provided from point of hire to Korea, and upon successful completion, return ticket will be provided back to point of hire.
Housing: YBM will deposit with the landlord up to 10 Million Won Key Money towards an apartment and location of the teacher�s choice. Each teacher is responsible for the monthly rental payments for the whole duration of the apartment lease. (more info: http://www.ybmhr.co.kr/job/job_salaries.asp )
Medical insurance and pension: 50/50
Injoong (CD) Busan (Hwamyeong Branch)
www.teachinbusan.com
Salary: 2.3M
Students: late elementary and middle school students (intermediate to advanced)
Classes: 4-7, 7-10pm(Mon-Fri or Sat)
Maximum number of students: 15
Teaching requirements: 120hours Overtime pay: 25,000KRW per hour
Vacation: 7 days paid, No national holidays off
Training: 1 week (from Mon to Fri) free accom./unpaid training
Airfare: round trip reimbursement up to 1M KRW
Housing: rent is free (semi-furnished studio apartment)
Medical insurance and pension: 50/50
Special classes on Jan and Aug |
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SunDevil Dre
Joined: 07 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:08 am Post subject: |
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You've posted this question several times. Here's a bump since I'm curious.  |
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oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you!
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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YBM-
They don't know how many days vacation they're giving you? Really? They can't figure this out?
You have to pay rent? There goes a huge chunk of your 2 million.
CDI-
After training, if they don't like you they dump you. See ya!
7 days vacation and no holidays? Maybe you'll get those 7 days, but I doubt they would be consecutive.
"Special" classes? Prepare to work your ass off.
1 million in airfare? hahaha
Why do people keep going to these companies? Is it because they are so afraid of the smaller hogwons? |
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SunDevil Dre
Joined: 07 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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oskinny1 wrote: |
Why do people keep going to these companies? Is it because they are so afraid of the smaller hogwons? |
Less security? The consensus on this board seems to be that smaller hagwons have a greater chance of not paying on-time, going bankrupt., etc.. Anyone have referral for a good, smaller hagwon?  |
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Not Korea
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:47 am Post subject: |
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YBM will expect you to work overtime. The extra pay does buffer the rent. |
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SLK
Joined: 08 Aug 2010
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:58 am Post subject: April Hywamyeong |
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Howdy;
I just got offered a place at April Hwamyeong, and one of their stipulations is I buy my airfare and it gets refunded... anyone have any luck negotiating this so they pay it?
I'll be broke if I have to
Also - anyone have any views they'd care to share?
SLK.x |
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cert43
Joined: 17 Jun 2010
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Good smaller hagwon?Think again...
My last hagwon DID not have Ameerican ( or white skinned) prerferance
and welll enough said |
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Tigerstyleone
Joined: 01 Feb 2009
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:27 am Post subject: |
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My first job was YBM. For the past 3 years I've lived in Busan, in Hwamyeong and I know the head foreign teacher at CDI.
Your first job is going to suck ass. Koreans aren't out to scam you like a 3 world country. Its just they've been F'd so many times by crazy foreigners they don't want to take any chances with airfare.
I know you won't take either offer and then you'll be out of time and eventually you'll be blacklisted.
Yes, recruiters also have an ESL cafe like us and yes they talk about the crazy people that waste their time and lead them on only to back out at the last minute.
I advise you to check out Starbucks. They offer health insurance even for part time workers. |
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cert43
Joined: 17 Jun 2010
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Everything sucks ass in todays world..if it not one job it's the next...
It's all the same after awile...
But, I would love to work at starbucks... all the coffe you can drink..Hell
yeah..(as opposed to going back to Korea and dealing with that shit
again). I only wish getting hired was as easy as it sounds.
I think they have alot of racial preferance too. |
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kbridger
Joined: 27 Aug 2004
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:21 am Post subject: YBM vs. CDI |
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I've heard that CDI will work you to death, then chuck you because you couldn't keep up. Koreans really like to do that to you...they log the most weekly hours of any industrialized nation...up to 80 (irregardless of their 40 hour workweek law), yet they actually make less money in that time than nations that work 40. It's a macho thing with them, I guess.
I have a friend that liked working at YBM in Seoul. |
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