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DHC
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| The new regulation is an attempt to cut down on the use of fake transcripts. Transcripts and diplomas can be purchased from a number of places in the US as "novelty" items and are not illegal to purchase, only to represent them to others as official is illegal. Other places in SE Asia offer packages of fake diplomas and transcripts complete with official sealed envelopes. Granted, apostilled degrees can also be forged but in the US the record od apostilles issued is a public record in most jurisdictions and are easily verifiable as authentic. Transcripts in the US cannot be verified directly with a university without the written consent of the graduate. One individual I know worked for years in KR as an English teacher using a masters degree diploma and sealed transcripts when in fact he did not graduate high school. Others have been caught by authorities teaching with fake qualifications. Their actions have made it tough on the majority who are honest. Frankly, I am surprised that it has taken so long for Immigration to wise up. One day they will realize that the best way to cut down on possible counterfeit qualifications is to require the school registrar to personally notarize a copy of your diploma and apostille with the apostille authority in the jurisdiction where the school is located. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Some interesting points there on the fake transcripts. Obviously, it would have been better if the authorities had just ushered in these requirements from the start! Many other countries have been doing so for a while so it would have made sense for the authorities to model their own system on those of other fellow members of the Hague Convention, of which there are many!
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Oliver
Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
http://www.apostille.org.uk/
If you include the delivery costs, an apostille going to set you back about one hundred pounds.
I really hope that there's a way to do this IN Korea. Any information I get will be shared here. |
There is no way to get the Apostille in Korea.
If you want to get the apostille you will have to send it to the FCO in the UK. Those private companies may be a good bet. I've got my family and friends to help me.
If you get the British Council stamp you could try and convince the immigration officer that it is the same as an apostille. The British Embassy in Korea told me to do that. However, I think that the FCO would not support this. They say on their website that a British Council Stamp can be legalized by them. That tells me that on its own a British Council stamp doesn''t legalize a document. At best it notarizes it.
It is worth noting that the British Council are very thorough in their degree verification process. They actually check with your University that the degree is real, that you actually studied that course there and received the degree. I am not sure if a lawyer or solicitor would go to this length.
If you are using the British Council Service then immigration should really accept the stamp without the need for apostille, regardless if the document is 'Legalized' or not. |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Im coming back to Korea next week and my recruiter has told me that I need to notarize a copy of my degree certificate.
Does anyone have any clue where I can get this done? |
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Oliver
Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
Im coming back to Korea next week and my recruiter has told me that I need to notarize a copy of my degree certificate.
Does anyone have any clue where I can get this done? |
You can get it done here mate, from the British Council. Check their webpage.
You'll also need an apostille. That you can only get from back in the UK at the FCO. |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| Oliver wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
Im coming back to Korea next week and my recruiter has told me that I need to notarize a copy of my degree certificate.
Does anyone have any clue where I can get this done? |
You can get it done here mate, from the British Council. Check their webpage.
You'll also need an apostille. That you can only get from back in the UK at the FCO. |
The British Embassy in Korea will "Attest" to an original CBC [I guess a notarised copy too], which is accepted by Korean Immigration. The Attestation letter is accepted as the Apostille in KI's eyes.
I'm curious if it is possible for them to "attest" to a notarised copy of your degree if the British Council in Korea do in fact "notarise" documents.
Anyone with further information about this? |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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So let me get this straight.
1. I need to get my degree photocopied and notarized.
2. I need to send that copy to the FCO for an apostille.
Is that correct?
This is costing me an absolute fortune  |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
So let me get this straight.
1. I need to get my degree photocopied and notarized.
2. I need to send that copy to the FCO for an apostille.
Is that correct?
This is costing me an absolute fortune |
Bump.
No one seems to know what I have to do. I'm getting conflicting information from the embassy, recruiter, FCO etc etc. This is becoming a major pain in the arse. |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:13 am Post subject: |
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This may only be useful for E2 visa holders CURRENTLY IN KOREA who wish to extend or transfer a visa before January 1st 2011.
http://english.kcue.or.kr/sub_new_03_1.html
I'm going to call these guys tomorrow.
02 6393 5225.
When I called immigration last week, the lady there told me that I could get my degree certificate 'approved' there (don't know exactly what that means, notorised, certified, apostilled, whatever). Anyway according to her, Kimmi will accept this.
Will report back here with results.
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Oliver
Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
So let me get this straight.
1. I need to get my degree photocopied and notarized.
2. I need to send that copy to the FCO for an apostille.
Is that correct?
This is costing me an absolute fortune |
yes |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Help.. my visa application was just rejected.
They said the (UK) CBC must be notarised and apostilled.
Also the (UK) diploma copy must be notarised and apostilled.
Can I do all this in/from Korea? Where? I understand the embassy will notarise the diploma which I can then post to UK for apostilling.
But where in Korea can I get the CBC notarized? The embassy gave a "letter of attestation" which was not good enough apparently. |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| The embassy gave a "letter of attestation" which was not good enough apparently. |
The immigration official probably did not understand/know that it is acceptable.
Had a problem with that before and had to get Korean Immigration to call the British Embassy to confirm that a "letter of attestation" is and has been accepted by Korean Immigration for visa purposes. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| Savant wrote: |
The immigration official probably did not understand/know that it is acceptable.. |
I have an excellent job that has accepted me .After six weeks of looking.
But now (because tomorrow is september 1st) i have to get all new apostilles and notarisations? Is it even possible to do all this from korea? because if i have to fly home now to do this then it is over and bye bye korea!  |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| Savant wrote: |
The immigration official probably did not understand/know that it is acceptable.. |
I have an excellent job that has accepted me .After six weeks of looking.
But now (because tomorrow is september 1st) i have to get all new apostilles and notarisations? Is it even possible to do all this from korea? because if i have to fly home now to do this then it is over and bye bye korea! |
Which documents did you submit exactly?
CBC: Subject Access only needs an Apostille. Basic Disclosure from Disclosure Scotland needs to be notarised and apostilled. If in Korea, substitute Apostille for "Letter of Attestation".
Degree: Original doesn't need any apostille or notarising. A copy requires both things. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| Savant wrote: |
Which documents did you submit exactly?
CBC: Subject Access only needs an Apostille. Basic Disclosure from Disclosure Scotland needs to be notarised and apostilled. If in Korea, substitute Apostille for "Letter of Attestation".
Degree: Original doesn't need any apostille or notarising. A copy requires both things. |
Thats what i thought.
I submitted the original diploma, which they said was OK.
But they rejected the letter of attestation with the CBC.
So obviously they made a mistake.
Now the regulations have changed overnight.
So now I have to send the CBC to the FCO for apostille?
and...Get a copy of the degree notarised/legalised by the british council ..and then send it to the FCO for apostille? |
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