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Why the Intolerance Towards Adjasee?
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Older korean men have that stern, fixed, dissaproving stare/gaze. They just look wrapped up in their own self importance. They behave like they're samurai warriors: look at them wrong and they'll slice your head off in an instant. They are prehistoric.
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Dr. Buck



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Land of the Morning Clam

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the *beep* out of the city and into the country where the "real" folks are.
Don't you see the correlation?
City equals weaklings and superficial flakes.
Country equals wise, tough old geezers that know more about life than any Yonsei twit.

I know the feeling and I have experienced it before and I think it all boils down to work: hard work, tough work. Not sitting at a desk, but from working the fishing boats or planting rice.

Check out the age of people out in the country--nobody under forty.

The last generation to break a sweat in this country were the two generations right after the Korean war. Since then, the following generations were so pampered and spoiled and brought up to be minor princes, that any character eveolved from hard work is non-existent.
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sparkx



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: thekimchipot.com

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTM -- Where you been hiding man??

It seems like an eon since I last saw that convulsing little man doing his little jig. There were times when I would hit the pillow at night and when I closed my eyes that little SOB had branded itself into my brain....ahhhh the good ol' days.
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Marathe



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: Spider Hole

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Buck wrote:

Check out the age of people out in the country--nobody under forty.

The last generation to break a sweat in this country were the two generations right after the Korean war. Since then, the following generations were so pampered and spoiled and brought up to be minor princes, that any character eveolved from hard work is non-existent.


thats a basic sociological truth about all societies - the ones that come out of a generation of luxury (lacking a war) are all soft.

thats why my generation (the 20-30 years olds now) are all lost but our parents (who were alive during the war and experienced the years after) and our grandparents were hard workers.

its not just korea.
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BTM



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Back in the saddle.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sparkx wrote:
BTM -- Where you been hiding man??


Been off wandering in cities of gold.

No, not really. Just got turned off the forums here for a bit, but they're feeling good and homey at the moment.

Also, I'm looking for a job (kinda - got an offer in Thailand I'm thinking very seriously about Very Happy ), and this place is the best place to hang when you're in that mindset, definitely!

Thanks for the shout-out, though!
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

har wrote:
One is that I have seen and been smiled at by those wisel men in Korea. I don't live in Seoul. We don't have conversations, but on more than one occasion an elderly man has smiled at me knowingly. And I can read in his expression, not only kindness also understanding. The nod and peircing look says hat a brave soul you are to come here, a young woman so far from home and family'. A couple of the most touching experiences here so far. Wise men do reside here.


Dr. Buck wrote:
Country equals wise, tough old geezers that know more about life than any Yonsei twit.


I'm wondering about this wise-old-man-raised-on-the-soil archetype. The old people I've met in the country are pretty much old people who are in the country. I've found no difference in wisdom and less knowledge of life.

A Yonsei twit could function in the country, but a tough old geezer would be befuddled with a subway map -- I enjoy watching the country folk looking at the subway maps and trying to figure them out (not in a mean way). . .

The difference for me is that country people seem a little friendlier, but listening to them talk, definitely not any wiser than anybody else.
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the image they project, and sometimes I am put off by a taxi driver, but even most of them have been okay , even good.

I am now teaching a class of mid-level bureaucrats from the city government, and they are really fun. Its nice to get past the plaid shirts, bad ties and tummy high-belts and spend some time with them. Once you spend time with someone, the stereotypes melt away.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My feeling on this is that they are not willing to except you as a part of the Korean system, and they push you outside of it all the time. They build up a wall of US and THEM, on the most subtile and of issues that are non issues. It is wearing...... it is tiring, even if you make a very good friend, this outside the system appears in subtile ways, and definitely on any national issue....
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HardyandTiny



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

manners
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a lot of the OP's post had to do with being treated as an equal, as opposed to a speedbump.

I figure it's a Judeo-Christian vs Confucian thing. The thing that annoys the hell out of me is when adjossi thinks he's better than I am because he's older and I'm in his country. I think I've had a fairly strong sense of egalitarianism bread into me. I try to treat people as equals, and it makes me angry when adjossi doesn't extend me the same courtesy. Irrationally angry.
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting topic. I wonder if it is because for a lot of them it is hard to feel comfortable. I had adult men in my class that I couldn't feel relaxed around. It felt like a wall was around them. I think that many are afraid to make a mistake in their English, so they don't speak. They are very tense and wary of any errors in what they say. No one wants to look foolish.
The ajumma classes were always different. A lot more of them were willing to