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MollyBloom

Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Location: James Joyce's pants
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: SMOE orientation question |
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I worked for SMOE for a year and took a different job after my contract ended. I already attended the orientation. If I am hired for next year, do I need to revisit the painful week of festivities all over again? |
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Swampthing
Joined: 10 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Officially, the answer is yes, but if you talk to someone higher on the food-chain than the Pak, I think you can get an exemption. |
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drama_addict
Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:27 am Post subject: |
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Even if you're forced to attend, just sneak out in the evenings.
It'll make the whole experience more tolerable. |
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MattAwesome
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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what? they told me that if you attended that orientation already you are exempted. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Knowing about orientation and having experienced it, why don't you go again and act like a prison mule. You can expose secrets to getting out of the compound, sneak in alcohol and sell it for 5x the retail price, charge 1,000 KRW per minute for newbies to use your phone at night after curfew, and sell black market forks and western snacks.
I've been considering being on the supply side of this kind of scheme for over a year now. PM me if you want to become one of my orientation mules. |
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Seoulio

Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Swampthing wrote: |
Officially, the answer is yes, but if you talk to someone higher on the food-chain than the Pak, I think you can get an exemption. |
No
Offically the answer is NO. You attend one orientation, and you are exempt from any further one. |
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lovebug
Joined: 29 Apr 2009
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:22 am Post subject: |
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drama_addict wrote: |
Even if you're forced to attend, just sneak out in the evenings.
It'll make the whole experience more tolerable. |
my boyfriend's friend and 2 other new SMOE recruits snuck out last month and were fired.
i would definitely recommend NOT sneaking out. it seems like they're getting harsher these days. we can argue all we want about how lame the orientation rules are, but SMOE/EPIK do have the final say, and it's a shame to see anyone go home before they even get to meet their school. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:35 am Post subject: |
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drama_addict wrote: |
Even if you're forced to attend, just sneak out in the evenings.
It'll make the whole experience more tolerable. |
Sneaking out if it's held at the Hyundai torture..ahem Learning centre in Yongin is pretty pointless. |
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working title
Joined: 20 Apr 2010
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Xuanzang wrote: |
drama_addict wrote: |
Even if you're forced to attend, just sneak out in the evenings.
It'll make the whole experience more tolerable. |
Sneaking out if it's held at the Hyundai torture..ahem Learning centre in Yongin is pretty pointless. |
Yeah, the Hyundai Higher Learning Center is AT LEAST a 25 minute walk to the nearest bodunk, in the sticks, town.
SMOE keeps it that way so there are no distractions. I see there point.
At least you were able to drink at the adjossi-owned corner mart outside the main gates. And the food at the HHLC wasn't too bad either. |
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MollyBloom

Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Location: James Joyce's pants
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Seoulio and Swampthing have different answers; why do you stand behind your official answers? Did you hear from/ask someone at SMOE? |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, the SMOE orientation was very painful. i was originally looking forward to it for the networking, but in the end, there were so many pissed off people being cooped up all day in that compound that the networking wasn't great anyway.
also, if they don't want/let people off the compound, they could at least prepare some decent korean food! the cafe food was pretty bad and that little shop inside only sold junk food. |
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NYC_Gal

Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Give them some strict dietary requirements (no white rice, no meat [including seafood], no salt, no whatever you like) and feign weakness unless you get it.
Or sneak out. I don't know how the security works on the SMOE orientations, but EPIK says that if you aren't in the building by 1am, you're stuck out until 5am. We just crashed at a jimjilbang and came back with Quiznos for breakfast.  |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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NYC_Gal wrote: |
Give them some strict dietary requirements (no white rice, no meat [including seafood], no salt, no whatever you like) and feign weakness unless you get it.
Or sneak out. I don't know how the security works on the SMOE orientations, but EPIK says that if you aren't in the building by 1am, you're stuck out until 5am. We just crashed at a jimjilbang and came back with Quiznos for breakfast.  |
there wasn't much "security," just the warning that we'll be fired from SMOE if we got caught sneaking off. |
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sluggo832004
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Teacher in-services are even worse in America. lol
You never get used to them. Its 8 hours of power point and perfect world scenarios. |
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Seoulio

Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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MollyBloom wrote: |
Seoulio and Swampthing have different answers; why do you stand behind your official answers? Did you hear from/ask someone at SMOE? |
Jon pak confirms it
SMOE head office confirms it
District offices confirm it.
the 15 teachers I perosnally know who took a break for a year and just returned last month confirm it.
The definition of an orientation it "to orient" you with Korea and teaching for SMOE.
NOt really possible to orient someone on the same thing twice. |
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