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What exactly have i been paying for?

 
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sligo



Joined: 15 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:14 pm    Post subject: What exactly have i been paying for? Reply with quote

To cut a long story short:

Been here over 3 years, Paid health insurance for all the time, went to hospital last night with chest pains, they charged me W250,000. What exactly does health insurance do apart from deplete my bank account? Oh i remember the good old days of a free at the point of need NHS.
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dharmasister



Joined: 23 Aug 2010
Location: New Orleans, Louisiana

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$213.65 for a trip to the emergency room? Is that for the entire visit or are more charges coming? If that's it I think that is great. My last trip to the ER with my son for 6 stitches cost me over $2,900. The room alone cost $800 and then there was the Dr's charges, the cost of gauze and sutures and an x-ray tech bill and then a bill from the radiologist who read the x-ray, and it just went on and on and on!!!!
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sligo



Joined: 15 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dharmasister wrote:
$213.65 for a trip to the emergency room? Is that for the entire visit or are more charges coming? If that's it I think that is great. My last trip to the ER with my son for 6 stitches cost me over $2,900. The room alone cost $800 and then there was the Dr's charges, the cost of gauze and sutures and an x-ray tech bill and then a bill from the radiologist who read the x-ray, and it just went on and on and on!!!!


The point i am trying to make is:

What is the insurance money paying for, if i get charged full price for everything? I only got a discount because i work for the university attached to the hospital (W20,000!)

Why charge W75,000 for an ECG? The machine hqas been paid for, the doctor is salaried, and the only resources used are the paper to print on and the electricity!

Making money from someone's misery puts insurance based health systems on a par with arms dealers!
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too have health insurance and it cost me like 60,000 for ECG and ultrasound at a small cardiologist clinic. This insurance is good for prescriptions, but not for testing, bad diseases, and emergencies. If you really need help on something, it's going to cost you.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NHS is only good for common cold and prescription. Razz
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bliss



Joined: 24 Sep 2007
Location: Gyeonggi

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think about it this way:

If you were paying 1.3-3% income tax in the UK, do you think the NHS would exist?
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2,900 smackers? What did your son do, fall off his bike? That's what I don't get about America, no health care. If you were poor your son's six stiches could wipe you out. In Canada here there's health care. I heard some artist on the radio saying that only in Canada could he live poor and do his art. Because if he ever gets sick it's no 'the sky is falling' financially.

I'm sorry to hear about your chest pains, OP, that's worrying. And I hope it works out ok. My experience has been if there are any fancy tests, like an EKG, then it's not on the medicare in Korea. On a more positive note the local 'health town' was golden in Goseung. Showed them my health coverage card and x-ray five bucks, vaccination five bucks. Very local and very down home friendly with a sense of it being a huge safety net used to dealing with hoopbacked, paddy-stooping retired farmers salt of the earth.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sligo wrote:
What is the insurance money paying for, if i get charged full price for everything?


If not for the insurance money you (and everyone else) paid in, the "full price" in question would be higher. That's what insurance does. It's a different model than full on nationalized health care, but it's not as if it's particularly challenging to understand.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many K-people go bankrupt and die unable to afford the hospital bills even with NHS. Most K-teachers have supplimentary private health insurance to cover medical bills not covered by NHS. Razz
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adamwatch



Joined: 10 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: What am I paying for. Reply with quote

I guess if you are British then paying for health care at all seems an insult.
However we also have to pay for a Korean pension and we can't get that money back, unlike Americans and Canadians. Is that any better?
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dharmasister



Joined: 23 Aug 2010
Location: New Orleans, Louisiana

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2,900 smackers? What did your son do, fall off his bike? That's what I don't get about America, no health care. If you were poor your son's six stiches could wipe you out. In Canada here there's health care. I heard some artist on the radio saying that only in Canada could he live poor and do his art. Because if he ever gets sick it's no 'the sky is falling' financially.


He was skateboarding on a homemade ramp (made out of metal sheets) and he had a major wipeout. We thought his arm was broken and the metal put a big gash in his arm. Luckily there was no break. But that was a good 10 years ago when I didn't have insurance. Luckily Obama's health care plan has passed because I am now newly divorced (again) and once more without insurance.

But honestly, I just didn't think that a couple hundred bucks is a lot for a trip to the hospital. Without insurance I was paying $150 just to see my ENT for an office visit. And WITH insurance a couple of years back the cost of a CAT scan that my ENT wanted me to get of my sinuses would have cost me over $1,500 for my uncovered portion (it was some seriously bad insurance). Thankfully, the guy I was dating at the time had a CAT scan at his office and he asked his partners if they could do the scan for me at no charge. The techs even volunteered to perform the scan for me. My point is, healthcare sucks!!! The costs are astronomical. I just thought it sounded like a bargain to me.

Anyway, I hope Sligo, that you are doing well. Just be glad you're not an uninsured American or one with a crappy policy.
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