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[Joo Rip Gwa Lee]

YBM is misrepresenting again.

In YBM Deves' Esl Cafe ad they say

Pay rate:
For teaching 90 hours 1.6 to 1.8 million won
For teaching 95 hours 1.7 to 1.9 million won
Our teaching hours are lower than the typical 100 to 120 teaching hours most schools offer in Korea.
But on their contract it says:

http://www.ybmsisa.com/ecc_edu/index.asp?sub1=sample


".1 During the term of this agreement, the employee is required to prepare for, teach, and carry out all required administrative duties connected with classes assigned by the employer. The minimum teaching requirement is ninety (135-forty minute classes) actual teaching hours per session. Monday through Saturday are teaching days except for scheduled public holidays and vacation days."


In Korea most schools have 50 minute classes not 60 minute classes.

[kimcheeking]

[Zyzyfer]

YBM uses a 40-minute class schedule, I would think. I worked for a YBM ECC as my last job, and it was 40 minutes, 5 minute break, 40 minutes, 5 minute break, so on.

[TheUrbanMyth]

[Joo Rip Gwa Lee]

Urban Myth YBM is implying that at other schools " the class hours" are one hour long while theirs are only 40 .


YBM is being cute with numbers. They are pretending without saying it that if you teach at other schools you will teach 120 hours but if you teach at YBM you will only teach 90.

But the truth is :

At YBM you teach 135 * 40min class a month = 5400 minutes = 90 hours

other schools 120 * 50 minutes a month = 6000 minutes a month = 100 hours.


At YBM you might work 10% less hours but your salary will be more than 10% lower.

[TheUrbanMyth]

[Joo Rip Gwa Lee]

Well then


Our teaching hours are lower than the typical 100 to 120 teaching hours most schools offer in Korea. .

100 * 50 = 5000 minutes a month 83 and 1/2 hours


83 1/2 < 90

YBM they are just dishonest.

[TheUrbanMyth]

[bucheon bum]

To sum it up: sign a contract based on how many classes/month you teach, not on how many hours you teach. Anything above 120 classes/month is above avg. and you'll be working your butt off. personally i'm dead tired after teaching 6 classes in a day; can't imagine teaching any more than that.

[matthews_world]

[bucheon bum]

actually they are 50 minutes classes.. and i get off easy? lots of hogwons contracts are for 120 classes/month. Sorry, I meant 6 classes in a row. I used to teach 9 classes M-W-F, split-shift, at my last job; that sucked.

35 hours of teaching? Doesn't sound fun. Then again i'm sure your paycheck is fatter than mine.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

YBM says you will teach 95 hours = 142 forty minute classes month

142 x 40

5680 Minutes a month


Other schools

120 x 50

6,000 Minutes a month

YBM says

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=15978

For teaching 95 hours per month 1.8 to 2.0 million Korean won (Less than 24 teaching hours per week) our teaching hours are lower than the typical 100 to 120 teaching hours most schools offer in Korea. Our salary per class is very competitive and one of the highest especially when you calculate the total package of YBM's GUARANTEED contract with all the benefits that we provide. Most contracts in Korea require you to teach 30 hours per week and may not provide all the same type of benefits we provide. Do not consider just the monthly salary but the total annual package and with YBM a career package.

But what they don��t say is that most schools have 50 minute classes.
That means 1500 minutes a week or 25 hours
1500/50 = 25 hours

YBM
5680/4= 1420
1420 minutes a week
1420/60 =
23.6 hours a week

YBM is is still YBM is still misrepresenting - in other words they are still being YBM.

[dogbert]

Is Lee your brother?

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

No, the original name got lost cause of a computer error and I could not use it again. These things happen.