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merlin123



Joined: 06 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Raw Food Reply with quote

Moving to Korea next month and hoping to continue eating mostly raw/live foods. Any other raw foodists out there? Is this a hopeless ideal?
What's the availability of fresh produce? Does Korea have such a thing as organic certification? Anyone know if I can operate a VitaMix blender from US if I put a converter on the plug?
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guava



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I miss my dehydrator. Does anyone have a link to where I could find one? I miss kale crunchies in olive oil and sea salt and oil-free banana chips.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some beef restaurants serve raw Korean beef. It's good. Sushi is nice, too.
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oldtactics



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Organic is near-impossible to guarantee. There might be specialty whole food stores in Seoul, but none that I've ever seen. Raw foodism is easy though, as long as you're aware that you'll likely never be able to eat in Korean restaurants. There are grocery stores and markets everywhere, regardless of where you live. And yes, with a converter, your Vitamix will be golden!
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AHawk843



Joined: 20 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some organic mini-markets in Seoul where you can buy vegan and gluten goods, but be prepared to shell over some major won. Orga Whole Foods is one, and it's got a decent stock of grains and soy products, produce and vitamins (http://www.orga.co.kr/main.jsp). Some E-Marts and HomePlus locations also have organic sections, even produce, but again, it's extremely pricey (as is produce here in general).
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Some beef restaurants serve raw Korean beef. It's good. Sushi is nice, too.


When I hear raw, I'm thinking along the lines of the raw beef and fish I ate. It was chewy, almost flavorless, and well...very raw. I'm not sure what's nice about it, but surely it's healthy to have a tigers palate. It's an all you can eat buffet for the cats, because anything, except pork is sold as fare game to those seeking sashimi and sushi to feel like sophisticated Japanese.

I haven't seen any of those old boxy transformers since many things are duel voltage now days. Your American blender and hair dryer aren't made for 230 volts and a transformer is an expensive thing that eats up electricity any time it's plugged in. You can get all kinds of similiar food processors, juicers, and blenders in Korea. You can get fresh produce, but don't expect the plentiful abundant variety you see in the states at fair market prices. It's limited supply and higher prices, but fresh apples and oranges are out there if you need em'. This years harvest is said to be very poor due to a cold Spring and wet Summer, but melons and goodies are available to those willing to pay silly prices. There is a very limited variety of organics in large supermarkets, but prices are very high compared to the high priced organics back home.


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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a symbol that looks similar to the Nong Hyup bank logo. It means organic. When a products actually says organic in English, it costs double. If it's all in Korean, but you see the symbol, it's exactly the same, minus the "foreigner price."

Laughing

Gyopo friend taught me that. It still costs more, though, but it saves a bundle compared to my first months here.
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chungbukdo



Joined: 22 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I eat the Paleo diet and generally try to eat mostly raw (I'm more concerned about whether the food is similar to what we evolved eating rather than if it has been cooked or not). You'll get a lot of raw, fermented vegetables (technically not fresh) in Korean cuisine. You can easily find a lot of raw animal protein, such as sashimi, raw beef, raw squid and octopus, etc. You'll find that most Koreans are skinny-fat lumps with the strength of 9 year old girls because they think jajjangmyun is healthy. My Korean girlfriend eats the same diet as me and her muscle mass and energy levels increased dramatically, which might show that their general weakness and malaise is not genetic.
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merlin123



Joined: 06 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, this is all very helpful, especially about finding the Organic label in Korean. I was imagining there were farmers' market-type places for buying fresh produce, but it sounds like everyone just buys produce in the regular grocery store? I've also heard about neighborhood produce trucks...are they just delivery trucks, or can you go out and buy from them like the ice cream man?
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

merlin123 wrote:
Thanks, this is all very helpful, especially about finding the Organic label in Korean. I was imagining there were farmers' market-type places for buying fresh produce, but it sounds like everyone just buys produce in the regular grocery store? I've also heard about neighborhood produce trucks...are they just delivery trucks, or can you go out and buy from them like the ice cream man?


You can buy right from the trucks. They drive slowly and make stops in areas. Also, sometimes markets setup, even in urban areas.

Neither of those mean they're organic. Farming is done differently from the way it is back in North America. All farms here are relatively small. But that doesn't mean they don't use synthetic pesticides and such.
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brickabrack



Joined: 17 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would imagine that you'll rarely get organic foods whether it be at open air market, grocery store, specialty store or farmer.

I talk to several farmers in my little town and I know 99% spray
their 'crops' with pestis and other synthetic fertilizers, even the co-op that
I get my veggies from.

If you think you're getting organic, even with 'official' labels, you're more than likely fooling yourself. Sorry to offend anyone who eats all 'organic' in Korea.

You could always grow your own veggies. 1/4 of my food intake comes from such a source. Now, what to do in the winter.

And, you could always to a 3-5 day detox while you're on vacay in SE Asia somewhere.
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somekindofwonderful



Joined: 05 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aspiring raw vegan here. More like high raw- I eat a low percentage of cooked food. I aim for mostly raw and I think that is the key. It hasn't been too difficult for me personally with the help of a dehydrator (g-market, e-mart� they are not difficult to find if you look), food processor, and a good, commercial grade blender for green juices and smoothies. Regarding organic food, I simply minimize consumption of the produce on the "dirty dozen" list if an organic version is not available. (fyi- chemical free celery is available at costco- one of the most susceptible foods to pesticide absorption and high on the dirty dozen list.) And I maximize consumption of produce on the "clean 15" list. avos, pineapple, etc.

There is abundance of sprouted beans and sea vegetables like dassima and nori. Since living in Korea I think I've actually become more "raw" which has been nice.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the reasons fire was such a great discovery is that humans digest cooked food much better than they do raw food. Humans became bigger and stronger and were better able to evolve.

I'm in favor of a primal diet heavy on protein plus fruits and vegetables, but it makes sense to cook the majority of your food.
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sigmund



Joined: 11 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, bring your vita-mix. I regret not bringing mine. You can just use a converter for it instead of a transformer, lighter/smaller/cheaper, since it doesn't use electronics.

You will do fine in Korea, but the biggest challenge, in all aspects of Korean life in my opinion, is lack of diversity. I live in Seoul and have to travel to many places to seek out different veggies and especially fruit.

In general, I also don't think Korea has the same food standards you might be used to. In general they don't seem to worry too much about bacteria/cleanliness of food or food prep. They also seem to be not to shy about using chemicals in livestock fishtanks, you got to do something with all that feces they're swimming around in, or in cleaning those sparkling grill tops.

I find that organic is hard to find, but even if I do find it I still rinse in a light natural soapy water to get off any residue. Produce is pretty expensive here and I try to buy it from the Ajumas on the street. It is usually almost half the price in the stores and since I am usually buying in large quantities they usually throw in extra anyway.
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