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Oliver

Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:36 am Post subject: Are we really teachers? |
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It's a fundamental question.
I find myself doing on the job training, a lot. For example, quickly evaluating how I did. Looking at things objectively. Researching about teaching methodology.
This is my second year in Korea and I am learning more and more with each day. I just wonder, would a teaching qualification from University, a degree, have served me better? More generally, would a teaching degree have helped the majority of us English teachers in Korea do a better job?
Do other teachers have the same thoughts?
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:39 am Post subject: |
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In Korea, no. But do you really want to be a teacher here? Just more stress. But, hey, I'll continue to slack and go on my vacations to SE Asia by not being a teacher.  |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:46 am Post subject: |
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Some of us are teachers. Were before we came. I definately think the job is easier and you get more respect if you have had training if only because you know what you are doing and people can see that in the way you go about youe job. It is also less stress if you know what you are doing so you can actually enjoy yourself more. |
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sluggo832004
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:46 am Post subject: |
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I been an American Teacher for 3 years.
I think it might be better if they got people with teaching experience, (no offense) but I think if you have the passion and desire to be a good teacher it will work out.
Sometimes experience is the best teacher. Kids are still kids.
But I think a realistic Korea 101 course would greatly help. When I say realistic, like a no no-nonsense course which teaches you what works and what usually does not work.
When I first started working as a teacher, I still had the college mindset. And I took that college mindset with me in the classroom. But I realized Im not dealing with college students, Im dealing with teenagers. So what I usually do is put the fear in God in them the first 3 weeks (veteran teachers call it "training the kids") and let them know this is a dictatorship not a democracy.
After awhile I ease up on them though. Students need to know you are confident, fair, will light their a** up if they even think about getting disrespectful with you. And you need to push them. But then again, i worked in the inner city, so maybe this is how I had to be. lol
I dont know why I typed all this, or if I even answered your question. lol |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: In my Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:09 am Post subject: |
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I am an English Language Teacher.
(Some are no more than book generals and worksheet pushers.) |
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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Location: Multiverse
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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We are but our efforts are limited at best due to the barrier of Korean Culture.
Just keep on plugging away for those bright and interested ones that make progress.
That's what keeps me going, knowing that even if one kid out of a thousand who wants to get good at English, gets their goal through me and one day gets a promotion, into a university they want or even is just able to make new friends whilst travelling abroad through the English I taught them - I've done something worthwhile. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Yes.  |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'm an Edutainer. I'm a stand up comedian,a game show host, and a Listen and repeat drill Sergent all in one. I keep changing my hat to suit the needs of the students. |
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take a rest
Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Location: self-banned
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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No.
And that's a good thing.
But I think some people are real teachers.
Personally, I prefer this to real teaching. |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, you are. And, don't let anyone fool you into believing you are not.
And, honest self-reflection and striving to improve ARE what good teachers do. Few are born as a good teacher. It takes effort, training and experience to be a good one.
Regardless of your "degree," go out there and be a teacher; you might be surprised at the results. |
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take a rest
Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Location: self-banned
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Unposter wrote: |
Yes, you are. And, don't let anyone fool you into believing you are not.
And, honest self-reflection and striving to improve ARE what good teachers do. Few are born as a good teacher. It takes effort, training and experience to be a good one.
Regardless of your "degree," go out there and be a teacher; you might be surprised at the results. |
This sounds really nice.
But I still don't think we're real teachers. You don't have to be a clown, but I think they're kind of expecting you to be more like a fun little treat as opposed to another lesson. They can still learn things from you, but you also have to make sure that everyone is having fun and not doing too much work, whereas real teachers don't really have to do that. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Fishead soup wrote: |
I'm an Edutainer. I'm a stand up comedian,a game show host, and a Listen and repeat drill Sergent all in one. I keep changing my hat to suit the needs of the students. |
Sounds like a teacher to me. |
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Seoul'n'Corea
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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sluggo832004 wrote: |
I been an American Teacher for 3 years.
I think it might be better if they got people with teaching experience, (no offense) but I think if you have the passion and desire to be a good teacher it will work out.
Sometimes experience is the best teacher. Kids are still kids.
But I think a realistic Korea 101 course would greatly help. When I say realistic, like a no no-nonsense course which teaches you what works and what usually does not work.
When I first started working as a teacher, I still had the college mindset. And I took that college mindset with me in the classroom. But I realized Im not dealing with college students, Im dealing with teenagers. So what I usually do is put the fear in God in them the first 3 weeks (veteran teachers call it "training the kids") and let them know this is a dictatorship not a democracy.
After awhile I ease up on them though. Students need to know you are confident, fair, will light their a** up if they even think about getting disrespectful with you. And you need to push them. But then again, i worked in the inner city, so maybe this is how I had to be. lol
I dont know why I typed all this, or if I even answered your question. lol |
Agree with you. I am also a teacher back home as well. Have been since 2005. |
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Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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take a rest wrote: |
But I still don't think we're real teachers. You don't have to be a clown, but I think they're kind of expecting you to be more like a fun little treat as opposed to another lesson. They can still learn things from you, but you also have to make sure that everyone is having fun and not doing too much work, whereas real teachers don't really have to do that. |
I don't do that, nor do I feel the inclination to. I work my students fairly hard, and I don't go out of my way to make my lessons unusually entertaining. At my school, English is a subject like any other, and it's taught that way. Kids only expect a class to be entertaining if you give them that expectation. Treat English like any other subject, and so will they. Act like a teacher, and your school will treat you like one. |
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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Location: Multiverse
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Fox wrote: |
take a rest wrote: |
But I still don't think we're real teachers. You don't have to be a clown, but I think they're kind of expecting you to be more like a fun little treat as opposed to another lesson. They can still learn things from you, but you also have to make sure that everyone is having fun and not doing too much work, whereas real teachers don't really have to do that. |
I don't do that, nor do I feel the inclination to. I work my students fairly hard, and I don't go out of my way to make my lessons unusually entertaining. At my school, English is a subject like any other, and it's taught that way. Kids only expect a class to be entertaining if you give them that expectation. Treat English like any other subject, and so will they. Act like a teacher, and your school will treat you like one. |
Not my school.
Trying is like banging my head against a wall of unpopularity.
My 5th grade teacher keeps tryingto make me speak English to the kids in an exaggerated Mickey mouse / barney dinosaur voice. No matter how much I try to explain to him that English speakers do not speak like that in real life and it would be humilliating and pointless for me to do that (I just have a normal voice, not scary or anything) he wont listen.
'Oh! Why don't you say OOOOH MYYY GAHD ! HELLO BOYS AND GIRLS!!!!! SO THE WONDERFUL DAY ! OH YEAH OH MY GAHD!!!! LET"S WOBNDERPULL DA ENGRISH TODAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!
Said at 5 times normal speaking volume and in a very high pitched and absurd tone.
You are lucky with your school. |
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