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Gyopo girls - how is dating in Korea?
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cert43



Joined: 17 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Him? Excuse me?! I am a woman

and I am talking about me f***** a certain and very

well-known Kyopo Guy/ Shocked

Yes, "duty"-f************!!!!!( untill you both can't feel your legs anymore) Laughing

-You guys so don't understand ( you havn't seen what he looks like).
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excaza



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry. still doesn't change my point.
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mc_jc wrote:
From what I've noticed- there are three kinds of Gyopo groups in Korea;

- The Gyopos who hung around with other Gyopos and had little contact with either Koreans or other foreigners
- Gyopos who hung out with Koreans and tried to embrace Korean language and culture in an effort to fit in.
- Gyopos who hung out with mostly foreigners and had little contact with other Gyopos and Koreans.

Though I know those who hung out with everyone because they were sociable enough not to restrict themselves to a certain group.

OP- my advice to you is to get a feel for Korea and the people there and then try to find out who you feel more comfortable hanging around with.
Korea is such a strange place in someways that the normal groups of people you might hang out with in the states might not be the same people you want to hang out with in Korea.
I have to agree with the post that most people get so desparate to make friends that they start hanging around with the first group that accepts them.
What I would say is evaluate your interests and then once you are in Korea, try to seek out groups or clubs that match your interests and then join them. You are bound to meet people with the same interests and insight who you could be friends with.
Also, leave yourself open to other opportunities to make friends.
I met my best friend at Seoul Station in 2002. I was waiting for another so-called friend when this Canadian dude came up to me and asked if I were a teacher (at the time, I was). We hung out and had lunch before he headed off to Iksan.
We stayed best friends ever since.
Sometimes it is serendipity that helps people become friends.


To the OP. This is the best advice I've read on this thread. I'd go with this one. I would add that I am not but I know a few. Some of it depends on your command of Korean. The ones I know that don't speak korean hang out with foreigners almost exclusively. One, a guy, has no intention of learning the language. The other, a girl I know, is trying to learn the language. The ones that do speak korean hang with the same or foreigners as far as I know.

Your own personality, maturity, etc. will decide where you fit in. This may sound a bit crass but if you are attractive you won't have problems dating. Attractive people rarely have trouble dating, even if there are linguistic and cultural barriers. Its just how it is.

Where you live is significant as well. You may not have much of a choice if you're in some small town as opposed to Seoul.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FIRST DUTY SEX. CUSTOMS WE NOT PAID. SHE ATE HAPPY
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actionjackson



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wai Mian wrote:
Sex is not a duty, no matter how good. My Sejong!


What? It's everyone's duty to please that booty. Wink
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JC VT



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gyopo girls I know, and the girls who are Korean by citizenship but have lived in the US/Canada so long as to make the distinction useless (only intermediate Korean language skills), all have or have had Korean boyfriends.

I'm sure there are tools who would say you aren't Korean enough, but would you want to date them anyways?
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Stalin84



Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My experience with gyopos is that they stick together. Not in all cases of course but it happens more often then not. Most of the gyopos I knew in Korea were nice enough though I always found that they chose to hang out with other gyopos instead of whiteys (I say that because they'd often let other people of Asian decent into their group long before they'd let non-Asian people).

I don't need to ask why this happens because I already know. Korean/Japanese/Chinese parents.

A little off topic... I have an English teaching friend here in Japan who is from Shanghai originally (she's native Chinese). She spent fifteen years in Vancouver (since JHS) and has a Canadian passport which is why she's able to teach here. The weird thing is that despite living in Canada for fifteen years, she speaks English very poorly and doesn't know anything about Western culture (seriously--nothing at all, unless it's also popular in China). She apologizes for this constantly.

I asked her why all of this was and it was because "I never speak English in Vancouver and all my friends are Chinese." Go figure!
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have said Gyopos tend to generally fall into several groups-

Group 1- Churchy gyopos. Great people, helpful, kind to people of all backgrounds, know how to go out and have a fun time that doesn't involve booze. If you are a Christian waygook of any background and enjoy doing things like going to the movies, sitting in coffee shops talking or playing board games, aren't constantly annoyed at Korea/Koreans, aren't hittingon anything that's Asian and moderately attractive, etc. etc. then you'll enjoy hanging out with them and they with you. Unfortunately, that idea of fun doesn't mesh with those of us who like to go to the ballgame and have some brews, hit the club, stroll around the streets at the wee hours, have a blast at the soju tent, etc etc.

Group 2- Wannabe Gangsta/Clubbing Gyopos. Generally from Cali, though not always. Drama Drama Drama. Booze filled mayhem. The guys tend to have a bad chip on their shoulder towards non-Asian men. The girls are sometimes emotional wrecks with issues or seriously over-aggressive and domineering. Fun if your Asian and in that scene. Not fun if your not in the scene, Asian or non-Asian.

Group 3- Loner gyopos. Hang out with random people or just by themselves. Have a very small circle of friends. Either totally sober and think everyone is some partying nutcase or they are solo alcoholics who spend their time chatting to their boyfriend back home.

Now I will say that gyopos sometimes want to just hang out with other Koreans, or with other gyopos, or with non-Koreans and this may change from day to day. Just because someone wants to hang out with only Koreans or only gyopos sometimes doesn't mean that they hate other foreigners. It's just that each group likes to do certain things and other groups tend not to. Somedays you want to do those things, other days you don't.

Unfortunately, a few people in any group will give you grief if you hang out with another group. "You hang out with THEM last night? You're so whitewashed you Twinkie. Don't you know you're just some Asian to them?" or "You hung out with Koreans? What are you part of the Han now? Don't you know they'll never accept you?". Ugh.

One big thing I notice is that A LOT of non-Asians, when they get in a group of Asians, try to be the center of attention and dominate things. This can be very tiresome. Just as us NETs sometimes can't say what we truly feel when we are around Koreans or our co-workers, same with gyopos when non-Asians/non-gyopos are around. Certain things can't be talked about without having someone feel left out or uncomfortable.

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I asked her why all of this was and it was because "I never speak English in Vancouver and all my friends are Chinese." Go figure!


Certainly describes a fair number of foreigners here!
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:

One big thing I notice is that A LOT of non-Asians, when they get in a group of Asians, try to be the center of attention and dominate things. This can be very tiresome.


This is nothing more than a cultural difference. Here's an illustrative analogy:

To westerners, a group conversation is sort of like a friendly game of volleyball. One person hits the ball to the other side, and the closest person scrambles to hit it back. Nobody cares who hits the ball and in what order as long as the ball stays in the air and everyone has a good time. The ones who are better at hitting the ball are naturally going to get more shots in, because it's always fair game.

A group conversation among East Asians is more like a game of bowling. Each person is supposed to patiently wait their turn to roll the ball, while everyone else politely watches to see how many pins they hit, and then congratulates them by briefly commenting and nodding in agreement. Only when they're finished does it become the next person's turn to play. Talking out of turn is against the rules and will make people upset!

So it's easy to see why a Westerner trying to socialize in a group of East Asians would tend to monopolize the conversation by butting in and hitting the ball back at every opportunity instead of waiting his or her turn.
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ATM SPIDERTAO



Joined: 05 Jul 2009
Location: seoul, south korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you should post a pic up and we can discuss if you can date


i dunno about gyopo but ANY western girl can get a guy in south korea

but they gotta be the aggressors!

can't expect a korean dude to mack

that being said, unless you're a really pretty skinny girl, you prolly won't date a really good looking korean GUY

lots of korean dudes i've talked to (i'm a guy) said they'd date a white girl over a black girl though. i mean like your average english teacher black girl. i doubt any guy anywhere would turn down a date with one of those sexy ass black chicks from rap music videos haha.

but i also feel that the cultural differences between gyobo's and native koreans are HUGE. gyobo's are literally like full out westerners in their way of thinking. but unlike dating an actual white or black person, they look EXACTLY like a korean person. so i find that it's harder to find mutual tolerance. and stuff that you'll generally sweep under the rug for being a cultural difference would get blown up
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm...


How about the ones who equally get along with other gyopos and people of other races? How about the gyopos who people enjoy hanging out with?

Its like you all group gyopos into these groups making them socially inept at branching out and being "normal".

Sure, I've met a few gyopos that fit into those "stereotypes". However, the vast majority I've met have been cool, normal people. They didn't fit any gyopo stereotype.

Case closed.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's fun to make goofy group names and such, but at my age, I find that most of the Kyopos I know are the same as me... Just trying to enjoy family life.
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Vagabundo



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Yeah, it's fun to make goofy group names and such, but at my age, I find that most of the Kyopos I know are the same as me... Just trying to enjoy family life.


huh?

what family life? you're married.

what if they're not married and don't have close families here that they interact with? or their families live far away?

how is a typical twenty something American gyopo "trying to enjoy family life" in Korea?
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vagabundo wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Yeah, it's fun to make goofy group names and such, but at my age, I find that most of the Kyopos I know are the same as me... Just trying to enjoy family life.


huh?

what family life? you're married.

what if they're not married and don't have close families here that they interact with? or their families live far away?

how is a typical twenty something American gyopo "trying to enjoy family life" in Korea?


He's trying to say that once you get married and have kids, all that BS falls by the wayside.
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Vagabundo



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:
Vagabundo wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Yeah, it's fun to make goofy group names and such, but at my age, I find that most of the Kyopos I know are the same as me... Just trying to enjoy family life.


huh?

what family life? you're married.

what if they're not married and don't have close families here that they interact with? or their families live far away?

how is a typical twenty something American gyopo "trying to enjoy family life" in Korea?


He's trying to say that once you get married and have kids, all that BS falls by the wayside.


no quibble, but the original post was about gyopo's dating in Korea, so I think we're not quite at the "family" stage just yet?

however, I would be curious what the stats are on gyopos who choose to stay here, marry a local and start a family. Majority? Minority? half or what percentage?
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