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Vagabundo



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:32 pm    Post subject: guesstimate on cost of samgyapsal/noreabang dinner? Reply with quote

I am considering inviting a group of teachers at school whom I'd like to get to know better out to a samgyapsal dinner, perhaps followed by some noreabang. If I invite female teachers, of course it won't be a naughty noreabang. If it's the boys.. well I dunno.. we'll see what they'll want.

I'd like to get a decent guesstimate on what something like that would cost me if I proceeded to go ahead with it. Let's say for a group of 5-6, or a group of 10-12.

I understand costs will depend on the type of restaurant and such and norebang costs may also vary, but I'm trying to get at least a ballpark idea of the hit my pocketbook might take.

also, what might a shabu-shabu din din cost?

Thanks.
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DeMayonnaise



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samgyeop sal: 5000 won a serving (give or take)
beer: 3000 won
soju: 3000 won.

Figure maybe 2 beers and a bottle of soju per person, depending on how crazy you get. 14,000 per person for dinner, so 70,000 for a dnner for 5.

Noraebangs run, what, 20,000 won an hour? maybe two hours? Plus beers and stuff there.

Maybe 150k - 200k for the night? Who knows...depends on how much booze you drink.
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talltony4



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samgyupsal 5000w? Where is this place?

More like 7000 to 10,000 per serving in Seoul. Hungry people can eat two servings each.

Other costs seem right. If you pay for dinner someone else will probably pay for the noraebang, so you could get away with 100,000 in total.
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nukeday



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must be living in Gangnam. 7,000 won is on the high end for sam gyeop sal, and I would NEVER pay 10,000 for it.
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Koreastyle



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I invite female teachers, of course it won't be a naughty noreabang.


Depends on the female teachers. Wink
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definitely maybe



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nukeday wrote:
You must be living in Gangnam. 7,000 won is on the high end for sam gyeop sal, and I would NEVER pay 10,000 for it.


You've never had any really solid samgyupsal then.
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Vagabundo



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

talltony4 wrote:
Samgyupsal 5000w? Where is this place?

More like 7000 to 10,000 per serving in Seoul. Hungry people can eat two servings each.

Other costs seem right. If you pay for dinner someone else will probably pay for the noraebang, so you could get away with 100,000 in total.


this is outside of Seoul, quite so, so my costs will probably be a little lower.

However, it so happens that these teachers are the young teachers at my school, in their 20's.. and I alas, am no longer in their "decade". Ergo, I will be their "hyung" and by Korean culture, kind of expected to foot the costs (no?) which slightly frightens me.

I'd like to hang out with them and get to know them better without having to eat the ENTIRE bill.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's an old saying- If you have to ask the price, you probably can't afford it.

If its a nice night out with the full staff-
Have a million won ready to drop on the night if need be. 2-300,000 for dinner. 300,000 for the bar. 2-500,000 for the noraebang. 200,000 for misc. expenses. These are all MAX prices obviously, but be prepared.

Take them out to one of the three nicest places in town. As much beer and soju as they want to drink. Don't forget they may want noodles or soup after the meat. Also if they serve beef too, you may have to get some servings as that as well. However many people there are, multiply it by 1.5 and if there is beef, split that up.

Bar inbetween or after the noraebang. Buy a bottle of whiskey, get several anju. Beers and soju.

Noraebang, another bottle of whiskey (might be able to save some and bring your own). More beer, more soju, more anju.

Be ready for an after bar too and maybe cab rides.

That is if this is you taking people out for the full deal.

If its just a group of teachers after volleyball then go to a place that has a rep for being filling. Price should be quite a bit less.

Probably won't need to buy a bottle of whiskey, though it will be a nice gesture.

Also they might offer to pay for some of it. Remember the 3X rule.

Oh and BTW, for whiskey- Black Label minimum. Ballantine's 17 or Chivas 18 if you can. Hennessey/Remy Martin VSOP is fine as well. Stick with those. If your principal is with you Ballantine's 21, or Royal Salut. Regardless, stick with Ballantine's, Chivas, Remy/Henny, or Johnny Walker. Jack Daniel's works as well.

I wish Koreans appreciated fine Single Malts, but sadly they don't seem to.
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Vagabundo



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
There's an old saying- If you have to ask the price, you probably can't afford it.

If its a nice night out with the full staff-
Have a million won ready to drop on the night if need be. 2-300,000 for dinner. 300,000 for the bar. 2-500,000 for the noraebang. 200,000 for misc. expenses. These are all MAX prices obviously, but be prepared.

Take them out to one of the three nicest places in town. As much beer and soju as they want to drink. Don't forget they may want noodles or soup after the meat. Also if they serve beef too, you may have to get some servings as that as well. However many people there are, multiply it by 1.5 and if there is beef, split that up.

Bar inbetween or after the noraebang. Buy a bottle of whiskey, get several anju. Beers and soju.

Noraebang, another bottle of whiskey (might be able to save some and bring your own). More beer, more soju, more anju.

Be ready for an after bar too and maybe cab rides.

That is if this is you taking people out for the full deal.

If its just a group of teachers after volleyball then go to a place that has a rep for being filling. Price should be quite a bit less.

Probably won't need to buy a bottle of whiskey, though it will be a nice gesture.

Also they might offer to pay for some of it. Remember the 3X rule.

Oh and BTW, for whiskey- Black Label minimum. Ballantine's 17 or Chivas 18 if you can. Hennessey/Remy Martin VSOP is fine as well. Stick with those. If your principal is with you Ballantine's 21, or Royal Salut. Regardless, stick with Ballantine's, Chivas, Remy/Henny, or Johnny Walker. Jack Daniel's works as well.

I wish Koreans appreciated fine Single Malts, but sadly they don't seem to.


appreciate the advice rails.

However, it's not going to be the full staff. Just like 5 or 6, 7 tops of the younger male teachers I'd like to get to know a little better.

I'm not really trying to "impress them", though I have also thought about inviting out the P and the VP (separate and different dinner) , that would probably be way too cost prohibitive given your sensible advice.

if I invite some of the younger K female teachers, that'd be like 12 people then, maybe 14.
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Troglodyte



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would probably be cheaper and more appreciated if you invited them over to your place for some kind of get together. Beer and soju are a lot cheaper if you buy them at the supermarket. And you can cook them something "western". Even pizza and beer with some loud music will show that you take an interest in them.

Just because you're older than them doesn't mean that they expect you to take them out to dinner. If you were high up in the company, they might expect it. But you aren't Korean, so you don't really fit into the social ladder here. You exist but on another scale. Most importantly, you aren't Korean so you don't have "jung" and can't gain any by showing off your wealth (i.e. throwing expensive parties for your underlings). So, don't worry about it. They don't expect it of you.
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For samgyupsal with soju, I'd budget 20,000 won per person. It shouldn't be necessary to spend more than that. The only way it would go over is if you go to a really expensive place, or if you guys drink a looooot of soju and everyone orders naengmyun after.

I spent two years in Korea and I never ever paid for noraebang (I had to be dragged there kicking and screaming), but it is not very expensive if you don't order extras like the fruit platter... or girls...
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nukeday



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

definitely maybe wrote:
nukeday wrote:
You must be living in Gangnam. 7,000 won is on the high end for sam gyeop sal, and I would NEVER pay 10,000 for it.


You've never had any really solid samgyupsal then.


solid samgyeopsal? it's meant to be the poor man's meat. if you're paying galbi prices for samgyupsal, then you've been suckered.
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definitely maybe



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nukeday wrote:
definitely maybe wrote:
nukeday wrote:
You must be living in Gangnam. 7,000 won is on the high end for sam gyeop sal, and I would NEVER pay 10,000 for it.


You've never had any really solid samgyupsal then.


solid samgyeopsal? it's meant to be the poor man's meat. if you're paying galbi prices for samgyupsal, then you've been suckered.


Don't just assume that all restaurants are equal. There are plenty of places that offer higher quality meat and use different methods of preparation that are far superior to the 1,900 won spots you must be going to. Let's also not forget that there are plenty of cheap, low-quality galbi out there as well. That doesn't automatically mean that there isn't any nicer, more expensive galbi. Maybe you should start eating at nicer places.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vagabundo wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
There's an old saying- If you have to ask the price, you probably can't afford it.

If its a nice night out with the full staff-
Have a million won ready to drop on the night if need be. 2-300,000 for dinner. 300,000 for the bar. 2-500,000 for the noraebang. 200,000 for misc. expenses. These are all MAX prices obviously, but be prepared.

Take them out to one of the three nicest places in town. As much beer and soju as they want to drink. Don't forget they may want noodles or soup after the meat. Also if they serve beef too, you may have to get some servings as that as well. However many people there are, multiply it by 1.5 and if there is beef, split that up.

Bar inbetween or after the noraebang. Buy a bottle of whiskey, get several anju. Beers and soju.

Noraebang, another bottle of whiskey (might be able to save some and bring your own). More beer, more soju, more anju.

Be ready for an after bar too and maybe cab rides.

That is if this is you taking people out for the full deal.

If its just a group of teachers after volleyball then go to a place that has a rep for being filling. Price should be quite a bit less.

Probably won't need to buy a bottle of whiskey, though it will be a nice gesture.

Also they might offer to pay for some of it. Remember the 3X rule.

Oh and BTW, for whiskey- Black Label minimum. Ballantine's 17 or Chivas 18 if you can. Hennessey/Remy Martin VSOP is fine as well. Stick with those. If your principal is with you Ballantine's 21, or Royal Salut. Regardless, stick with Ballantine's, Chivas, Remy/Henny, or Johnny Walker. Jack Daniel's works as well.

I wish Koreans appreciated fine Single Malts, but sadly they don't seem to.


appreciate the advice rails.

However, it's not going to be the full staff. Just like 5 or 6, 7 tops of the younger male teachers I'd like to get to know a little better.

I'm not really trying to "impress them", though I have also thought about inviting out the P and the VP (separate and different dinner) , that would probably be way too cost prohibitive given your sensible advice.

if I invite some of the younger K female teachers, that'd be like 12 people then, maybe 14.


Well be sure to present it in the context of 'going out after volleyball' or something like that.

If a night out is all you're looking for, go to a chicken hof or get some pizza. They will probably like it better than the whole formal Samgyupsal noraebang routine.

Remember what you offer- A more relaxed atmosphere and an absence of the social constraints that Korean Teachers nights out typically involve. Play to that strength.

A dinner at a roast meat restaurant followed up by the noraebang usually means a more costly affair and the expectations are different.


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but it is not very expensive if you don't order extras like the fruit platter


If you're out with Koreans, order the fruit platter. For one its the local custom akin to tipping and you should respect that. Also your guests will be expecting it and you want to be hospitable.

Don't spend 150,000 won on taking everyone out only to ruin the whole effort by refusing to spend that extra 15,000 won on a fruit platter.
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nukeday



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

definitely maybe wrote:
nukeday wrote:
definitely maybe wrote:
nukeday wrote:
You must be living in Gangnam. 7,000 won is on the high end for sam gyeop sal, and I would NEVER pay 10,000 for it.


You've never had any really solid samgyupsal then.


solid samgyeopsal? it's meant to be the poor man's meat. if you're paying galbi prices for samgyupsal, then you've been suckered.


Don't just assume that all restaurants are equal. There are plenty of places that offer higher quality meat and use different methods of preparation that are far superior to the 1,900 won spots you must be going to. Let's also not forget that there are plenty of cheap, low-quality galbi out there as well. That doesn't automatically mean that there isn't any nicer, more expensive galbi. Maybe you should start eating at nicer places.


I do go to nice places (i've mostly noticed soh galbi prices depending on location [again] and whether the beef is imported or domestic)...just not for sam gyeop sal. I guess you're also the type that thinks a $15 burger is somehow "worth it." To each his own. Exactly the kind of customer they're looking for. Reminds me of the ramen place near my house that just sells shin ramyun with some random vegetables or seafood thrown in it and manages to charge 5,000 a bowl. Ain't bustin' any piggy banks, but still a ripoff.

The intent of the OP was probably to figure the price of a normal-priced sam gyeopsal place, not to find "elegant" samgyeopsal in Samseong-dong.

By the way, I'd say the average for sam gyeopsal is more like 4-5,000 won a serving. The 1,900 won spots tend to use the thinly sliced frozen stuff. I guess the 10,000 won places must serve the slabs of raw flesh and fat on a naked woman.
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