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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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Because I hear this kind of crap on a regular basis.
I don't want to eat US beef because they are corn-fed. Canadian beef is wheat fed. I am worried that the corn-fed beef doesn't match the bodies of Canadians. You know, we're totally different than Americans.
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I want to say 2 things about this issue:
2. In the article, the part that made me frown was the point about 'Chinese soil not matching a Korean person's body'. There Koreans go again, thinking they're so unique. Just like how some claimed that Koreans were more susceptible to mad cow's disease. |
Actually what was said that Chinese CABBAGES do not match a Korean person's body.
And how does one person stating an opinion equate to "There Koreans go again, thinking they're so unique"? |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| Korean "special diet" types are the same as the vegan crowd or the raw foods crowd or macrobiotic types. A bunch of people overly neurotic about what they eat, who also probably have some valid points to go with their quackery. |
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Rocktek
Joined: 17 Dec 2009
Location: South Korea
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, well, I am sure glad that I ain't Korean. Kimchi three times a day for the rest of your life...sounds like the food(if you can call it such) version of a life sentence. |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, it is funny that Chinese kimchi is now "good enough." Just like US beef. These people are fools when it comes to food. Oh, now that you don't have it, all the sudden Chinese food is acceptable for that unique thing called the Korean body. I hope China puts the screws to them and jacks the prices up. Make them pay out the nose for that rotten cabbage. |
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Rocktek
Joined: 17 Dec 2009
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Wishmaster wrote: |
| Yeah, it is funny that Chinese kimchi is now "good enough." Just like US beef. These people are fools when it comes to food. Oh, now that you don't have it, all the sudden Chinese food is acceptable for that unique thing called the Korean body. I hope China puts the screws to them and jacks the prices up. Make them pay out the nose for that rotten cabbage. |
I know.
And, it gets better.....
"I don't know how long I can keep ignoring my grandkids and my husband's demands for kimchi every meal," Kim Hyung-sook, who lives in northern Seoul, told the Associated Press. "You're not Korean if you don't eat kimchi three times a day."
Here's the catch...
It is believed that gochujang (hot pepper paste) was first used in Korea in the late 18th century, after chili was introduced via Japan in the 16th century] According to the Jungbo Sallim geongje (증보산림경제, 1765), gochujang was made by adding powdered red chili peppers and glutinous rice powder to soybean paste, and aging this paste under the sun. This recipe is similar to the recipe used today to make gochujang.
This "timeless" Korean fixture is relatively new, and not Korean at all (JAPANESE), yet they pour it on all their food like Americans do Ketchup.
I saw a show on the Discovery channel a few years ago, describing the biological response to eating chili peppers as that of the "pain response" which cause the brain to release endorphins. Therein lies the "addictive" quality of Kimshi(t). KIMCHI IS MORE ADDICTIVE THAN __________.
I swear, Korean food wouldn't be that bad, if they didn't pour a *%&load of Gojujang on EVERYTHING!!
All I can taste is red pepper, AND IT'S NOT EVEN KOREAN. (Unless you believe the BS they spew, from "common knowledge" of what they want you to believe).
I guess it just goes to show, that Koreans have been copying other cultures for a few centuries, and apparently that's the best they can do.
I've long held the belief this the epitome of "addictive/compulsive behavior", and the Korean addiction to Kimchi (which isn't even of thier own direct creation), is more than proof of their insta-grat compulsiveness collectively, as culture.
They better get used to Chinese Kimchi, if they're gonna keep their tired dependence on "all things foreign" going, since they don't seem to be able to "create" anything of their own.
Pie Ting Korea..... |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:25 am Post subject: |
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http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/kimchi-shortage-rocks-south-korea/
WTF is the Korea Peasants League?
Google and groan.
(Korea Peasants League motto: We are a bunch of raving lunatics, and proud of it!!!!!)
I'm skeptical of that timeline, Rocktek, specifically chili peppers traveling from Japan to Korea in the 16th century. The chili pepper originated in the Americas, and was first brought to Europe by Columbus around 1492. From there it eventually made its way to Asia, from what I read a while ago, first to China, traveling aboard European ships. I don't think Europeans had contact with Japan that early, so it would have had to travel from China to Japan first, if that is the route to Korea. My guess is it would have been later, and perhaps via China to Korea. Maybe someone can research this. But chili peppers are certainly not native to Korean cuisine.
Here's what Wikipedia has to say:
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| From Mexico, at the time the Spanish colony that controlled commerce with Asia, chili peppers spread rapidly into the Philippines and then to India, China, Korea and Japan. They were incorporated into the local cuisines. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chili_peppers
This suggests there is no evolutionary connection between Korean "body type" and hot peppers. If you eat a food three times a day, every day, that your body cannot digest fully, eventually you will develop a food allergy to it that, some say, can mimic an addiction. And many people have a genetic sensitivity to hot peppers that causes a variety of problems.
As to Koreans' supposed addiction to kimchi, if a reporter sticks a microphone in Korean's face, asks their name and asks if they like kimchi, now what do you suppose they are going to say? I hate kimchi???
Every Korean is taught from childhood exactly what to say. How many of you have had eternal vows of kimchi worship included as dialogue in your English textbooks? I have, along with what the most beautiful dress, most beautiful mountain, etc. in the world is.
Funny thing, though. When I look at the dishes left for return to the restaurant sitting outside the apartment doors, a lot of times the kimchi has not been touched.
This three times a day kimchi rule I think is one of the reasons some Korean kids are hyperactive, and some Koreans have insomnia. And I know it is a reason some old people walk around bent over with canes. Kimchi is not a health food. For some people, kimchi is poison. It wouldn't be so bad two or three times a week, but three times a day is nuts.
The real issue, though, is crop failure. Agriculture in Korea, with its limited range of climate, seems to be at the mercy of the weather. Increase the temperature, decrease the temperature, increase the rain, decrease the rain, and Korea could be in trouble. Can this country feed itself, even with optimal weather? Of course not. You've got 60 million people (twice as many as Canada) in a space half the size of California. This crop failure is proof that Korea need friends in other countries. And how many countries are Korea's friends? How many countries does Korea hate?
Korea isn't the only country having crop failures this year. Russia had shortages of wheat and buckwheat due to their extraordinary heat wave. There was an article about buckwheat, and how important it is to Russian diet, sort of what napa cabbage is to Koreans.
And then there were tornadoes in New York City and record flooding in Pakistan.
We were warned that extreme weather and disruption of normal weather patterns would be an outcome of climate change. There are meteorologists and climatologists saying there is evidence that some of these incidents are connected, and appear to be the result of climate change.
All of this is happening faster than most people expected. The timeline on global warming keeps moving up. Frankly, it appears we are already past the tipping point. It is now impossible to stop or reverse global warming, short of some totally revolutionary scientific-technological breakthrough to manipulate the climate. Electric cars, green appliances, recycling, wind power, etc., can only slow down climate change a little, but cannot stop the vicious cycle of warming that has been started.
The experts know this: it is due to the release of frozen methane. This causes far more warming than CO2, and the warming causes the release of more frozen methane, causing more warming, releasing more methane, etc. When this has occurred in the geological past, much of the Earth has turned into a desert.
Not that it matters, but in case anyone here cares, which I doubt, the greatest source of man made methane released into the atmosphere is rice paddies.
Even in a best case scenario for global warming, we are still going to see crop failures with increasing frequency. Don't take my word for it, look at the CIA report from a couple of years ago -- most of it is public. Hundreds of thousands of people will be threatened with starvation, without international aid, and there could be widespread political unrest. (But don't look to America to solve the world's problems -- we're broke.)
If people could learn to cooperate, within countries and between countries, humanity might be able to make it through this coming crisis. How much political cooperation have you seen in Korea over the Kimchi Crisis?
It was the same story in Russia. And as to political cooperation in the U.S., are you kidding? It would be nice if there were some leadership out of the United Nations, which was set up to promote cooperation.
It does not look good.
In The Day the Earth Stood Still, an alien threatened Earth with destruction if we didn't learn to live together in peace. (So we shot him.) Who needs Klaatu and Gort when Mother Nature can wipe out humanity all by Herself?
People can deny global warming all they want. You can already see the evidence in the reddish brown dead trees spotting the forests of Korea.
Most of you reading this have a life expectancy of at least 20 to 50 years; your students more like 60-70 years.
In the immortal words of Al Jolson: You ain't seen nuthin yet! Most of you will see with your own eyes -- and your own stomachs -- the results of climate change, if you haven't already.
I have. I'm old enough to have seen the changes in America. And I'm not planning to be around for the next act. I'm going to close my door, close my window, lie down on my bed and turn on an electric fan. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Gatsby wrote: |
| I'm going to close my door, close my window, lie down on my bed and turn on an electric fan. |
Isn't there anyone that you can talk with first? |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| This is actually a big issue in Korea. It's a staple of the Korean diet. But, for once, will the government admit that there was price gouging by many stores? It's not like they didn't have any kimchi stored up. Korean consumers get gouged on a regular basis and the excuse is whatever the latest food crisis may be. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Korean Peasants League?
We're the League of Korean Peasants.
Splitters!
Who do we hate? The Korean Peasants League? No, The Americans! Oh right, the Americans...
It's the Korean Peasents League Crack Suicide Squad! |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:55 am Post subject: |
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I pay about 40 cents a head of Chinese cabbage.
Put it in a tub of salty water for a day.
Rinse, then add my garlic, green onions, red pepper stuff
One month later a LOT of kimchi.
Less than a dollar. |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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The Great Wall of Whine whined:
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| I pay about 40 cents a head of Chinese cabbage. |
Must be Mad Kimchi Disease. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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An article today in one of the cheapie newspapers:
Lee Myung Bak says to producers, 'Lower your prices on daily necessities. There is no reason for prices to be so much higher than the world market prices.'
A rough translation. I didn't have a chance to read it in full. I think the title says it all. If Lee can accomplish this and stop the gouging, he coulfd be the best president this place has ever had.
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| This is actually a big issue in Korea. It's a staple of the Korean diet. But, for once, will the government admit that there was price gouging by many stores? It's not like they didn't have any kimchi stored up. Korean consumers get gouged on a regular basis and the excuse is whatever the latest food crisis may be. |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, BoholDiver.
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I didn't have a chance to read it in full. I think the title says it all. If Lee can accomplish this and stop the gouging, he coulfd be the best president this place has ever had.
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Aside from the absurd stupidity of Lee Myung Bak's statement: "There is no reason for prices to be so much higher than the world market prices," showing a complete ignorance of economics, not to mention meteorology, there is a way to stop price gouging, a simple way that doesn't cost a won. And it's not by commanding from on high: "Lower your prices," or even "Lower your prices, please," which would at least have slightly more than zero chance of success.
However, it would require that LMB, or someone on his staff, to do some actual thinking. We're talking intelligent, creative, original thinking. Can they do it? You can hold your breath or wait for the next cabbage harvest, but I suggest the later.
I know the answer, and I would be happy to share it with you, fellow posters, and LMB, and all of Korea. But if I did, Koreans would not only ignore my advice, they would do the opposite, for, as many of you may already have surmised, it is strictly against the law for Koreans to accept any advice whatsoever from foreigners. If you were to tell a Korean to take the subway to the Empire State Building, they would take a bus, and if you told them to walk south, they would walk north. I've seen them do it.
So, creative thinking and taking advice from foreigners are not in the Korean playbook. However, there is one skill that Koreans excel at: plagiarism.
There is another country that faced a similar problem this summer, a crop failure of one of that country's favorite commodities, a staple of their diet much as kimchi is a staple of the Korean diet, exacerbated by hoarding and price gouging. So the leader of that country issued a simple statement and the prices came down.
Now, being a foreigner, I would be violating the law against giving advice to Koreans if I were to tell you the name of this country, so I cannot. I can tell you it is a major country, one that is frequently in the news (hint: I read about this issue in the New York Times). However, it is also un-patriotic for Koreans to read foreign news outside of what is published in the Korean press, to use their English to actually learn about the world outside of Korea, or to generally give a damn about any country or issue farther from home than Dokdo. So it is unlikely that Koreans or LMB or his staff read about this shortage or what that country did about it.
Shhh! If you figure out the answer, do not tell any Koreans!
Lee Myung Bak, Steal this idea! Please!
(I promise I won't tell on you.)
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Korea's motto: "We re-invented the wheel 75 years ago!!! And then we re-invented the automobile 25 years ago!!!!!!" |
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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010
Location: Multiverse
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| Wishmaster wrote: |
| Yeah, well, I am sure glad that I ain't Korean. Kimchi three times a day for the rest of your life...sounds like the food(if you can call it such) version of a life sentence. |
Sounds like stomach cancer to me. |
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