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J Rock



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbybigfoot wrote:
What do you guys do when the kids refuse your punishments?

When they flat out refuse to sit with the boys?
When they won't stay after class (they just walk out)?
When they won't copy lines?

Alot of my Korean teachers aren't interested in dealing with my problems and management certainly isn't. (Getting management involved and you are seen as a weak teacher and asking for trouble.)

What do you do when your school has zero discipline rules?

What do you do when the Korean teacher (who has the kids for 80% of the lessons) allows the kids do what they want?


This is exactly my problem to, the kids laugh in my face even when i am dead serious. At first I resorted to getting the head teacher to come in and talk to the class and that works for about 10 minutes but then they just go right back to being rude.

After asking the head teacher to help me 3 times in 2 weeks I could tell the kids were getting immune to it, right after she left they went right back to being jerks.

Eventually I stopped asking for help becuase she gave me the speech she can only do so much because we cannot lose the students. So I stopped asking for her help and deal with it myself. To this day I still have not found a good solution for trouble makers the only thing I can do is ignore the little jokes they pull and give a lot of positive attention to the other kids. That seems to work somewhat but the truly evil kids don't care they want complete chaos at all times.
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northway



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbybigfoot wrote:
northway wrote:

What can you do? This is kind of the point at which you stop caring. If everyone involved - administrators, teachers, students - views it as a run out the clock situation, you're kind of obliged to as well, as much as it's not an ideal situation for you as a teacher or for them as students.


Alot of us work for schools like this. And this is why I laugh at these high and mighty posters who make it seem like a cake walk.

Some of us have little support and know full well the kids are in control.


It bothers me more when the rant about how lazy so many teachers are when at the same time so many teachers are faced with schools where education is hardly a prerogative.
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Wishmaster



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretend that she is Private Pyle. Punish all the other students when she does something that irks you. If that doesnt work, just have the students throw a blanket on her and have them put their pencil cases in towels and let them smack her a few times. Just hope she doesn't get access to a 7.62 mm anywhere. Might be bad for you.
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diarmuid2k



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: Tips for smartass students? Reply with quote

tzzel wrote:
Hi everyone,

I've got a smart-ass student in my class. Now, I've had ones before, but she is the ultimate smart-ass: intelligent, disrespectful, and she is popular in the class. This one little cheeky girl has become my biggest obstacle in my teaching at this academy.

Why is it important to neutralize this type of student? She pushes the boundaries at every chance and when it happens, she gains power. Subsequently, I lose power in the eyes of that class.

I got smarted again today by her. Anyway, if I can neutralize her, I will have about 50% less stress at my job.

So, my plan:

1. Make her sit at the front, away from the girls. Students will act like their the shit when with friends, but 1 on 1, they are quite meek.

2. She has a tendency to act a smartass. I will frequently ask her if she has questions (she hates when I single her out).

3. Violence or losing my cool is not an option.

What do you all think?


This really should be a non-issue.

1) Next time she mouths off, stop the class. Get everyone quiet. Look directly and unwaveringly at your student (not to intimidate, but to focus her on the fact that she has crossed a line with you).

2) Get her to assist you in explaining that she would never dare speak to a Korean elder, much less a teacher, in such a disrespectful way - ever. Solicit agreement from her classmates (but do not invite discussion - maintain firm but calm control over the class).

3) Address the little b#$%@ directly by name, then include with words and eyes the rest of the class, as you proclaim an end to the days when the teacher can be disrespected. Tell them if anyone has a problem with your new rules, they can leave. Open the door of the classroom, invite anyone who wishes to to leave now.

4) Explain that disrespect to you is disrespect to the school and its owner, as well as disrespect to the students' parents, who pay to have them attend the school. Tell them that you will make sure (doesn't matter if you are bludding, just make it convincing) that the parents will be contacted regarding any future behavioral problems.

5) As soon as the girl cops you attitude (and she will in some small way to test you), call immediate attention to it, open the door, tell her to get out and wait outside until you can accompany her to the front office. If she refuses, you leave, get the front office to assist you in removing the student.

6) Once she's out, briefly explain (without going into details you dont need) that the student is disrepsectful and interupting your class, making it hard for the other students to learn. Add that her beahvior has been a continuing problem and that you want her to stop.

7) Return to your class without the student. If need be, have her wait outside. Speak to the rest of the class in a calm but firm voice that you are there to help them and that you want them to succeed. Add that you cannot do that if some students want to make the classroom a place of disrespect and not of learning. Check repeatedly to make sure they understand.

Cool Open the door. Tell the student waiting outside "Sit down." and wait until she does. Give a moment to make sure she sits and shuts her piehole with her pencil in hand, ready to study. Once you have acheived that, continue the lesson.

This 10 minutes of effort will buy you 50% more respect. You will have to follow up with removing students for "time-outs" as necessary.

If your school's management is unsupportive - quit. There is no reason you can't find a position at another school within a week or two - remind your boss of this and of the fact that you are only requesting basic teacher support. Working in an environment, espeically in Korea, where you are shat upon as a teacher should be unacceptable to you and to the students you are trying to educate. Be clear in your own mind about this and you should be fine.
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bobbybigfoot



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: Tips for smartass students? Reply with quote

diarmuid2k wrote:


This really should be a non-issue.

1) Next time she mouths off, stop the class. Get everyone quiet. Look directly and unwaveringly at your student (not to intimidate, but to focus her on the fact that she has crossed a line with you).

2) Get her to assist you in explaining that she would never dare speak to a Korean elder, much less a teacher, in such a disrespectful way - ever. Solicit agreement from her classmates (but do not invite discussion - maintain firm but calm control over the class).

3) Address the little b#$%@ directly by name, then include with words and eyes the rest of the class, as you proclaim an end to the days when the teacher can be disrespected. Tell them if anyone has a problem with your new rules, they can leave. Open the door of the classroom, invite anyone who wishes to to leave now.

4) Explain that disrespect to you is disrespect to the school and its owner, as well as disrespect to the students' parents, who pay to have them attend the school. Tell them that you will make sure (doesn't matter if you are bludding, just make it convincing) that the parents will be contacted regarding any future behavioral problems.

5) As soon as the girl cops you attitude (and she will in some small way to test you), call immediate attention to it, open the door, tell her to get out and wait outside until you can accompany her to the front office. If she refuses, you leave, get the front office to assist you in removing the student.

6) Once she's out, briefly explain (without going into details you dont need) that the student is disrepsectful and interupting your class, making it hard for the other students to learn. Add that her beahvior has been a continuing problem and that you want her to stop.

7) Return to your class without the student. If need be, have her wait outside. Speak to the rest of the class in a calm but firm voice that you are there to help them and that you want them to succeed. Add that you cannot do that if some students want to make the classroom a place of disrespect and not of learning. Check repeatedly to make sure they understand.

Cool Open the door. Tell the student waiting outside "Sit down." and wait until she does. Give a moment to make sure she sits and shuts her piehole with her pencil in hand, ready to study. Once you have acheived that, continue the lesson.

This 10 minutes of effort will buy you 50% more respect. You will have to follow up with removing students for "time-outs" as necessary.

If your school's management is unsupportive - quit. There is no reason you can't find a position at another school within a week or two - remind your boss of this and of the fact that you are only requesting basic teacher support. Working in an environment, espeically in Korea, where you are shat upon as a teacher should be unacceptable to you and to the students you are trying to educate. Be clear in your own mind about this and you should be fine.


You've obviously not taught in a class where there are multiple kids who don't give a sh*t and who think it's a big joke to be sent out of the class.

And "quitting" as you suggest isn't nearly as easy as you make it out to be. Letters of Release, plane ticket refunds, severance, future reference.

And, by the way, most of us are shat upon, in some form or another. The system here in Korea is pitiful. It's a giant racket that has little to do with education.
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diarmuid2k



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Tips for smartass students? Reply with quote

bobbybigfoot wrote:
diarmuid2k wrote:


This really should be a non-issue.

1) Next time she mouths off, stop the class. Get everyone quiet. Look directly and unwaveringly at your student (not to intimidate, but to focus her on the fact that she has crossed a line with you).

2) Get her to assist you in explaining that she would never dare speak to a Korean elder, much less a teacher, in such a disrespectful way - ever. Solicit agreement from her classmates (but do not invite discussion - maintain firm but calm control over the class).

3) Address the little b#$%@ directly by name, then include with words and eyes the rest of the class, as you proclaim an end to the days when the teacher can be disrespected. Tell them if anyone has a problem with your new rules, they can leave. Open the door of the classroom, invite anyone who wishes to to leave now.

4) Explain that disrespect to you is disrespect to the school and its owner, as well as disrespect to the students' parents, who pay to have them attend the school. Tell them that you will make sure (doesn't matter if you are bludding, just make it convincing) that the parents will be contacted regarding any future behavioral problems.

5) As soon as the girl cops you attitude (and she will in some small way to test you), call immediate attention to it, open the door, tell her to get out and wait outside until you can accompany her to the front office. If she refuses, you leave, get the front office to assist you in removing the student.

6) Once she's out, briefly explain (without going into details you dont need) that the student is disrepsectful and interupting your class, making it hard for the other students to learn. Add that her beahvior has been a continuing problem and that you want her to stop.

7) Return to your class without the student. If need be, have her wait outside. Speak to the rest of the class in a calm but firm voice that you are there to help them and that you want them to succeed. Add that you cannot do that if some students want to make the classroom a place of disrespect and not of learning. Check repeatedly to make sure they understand.

Cool Open the door. Tell the student waiting outside "Sit down." and wait until she does. Give a moment to make sure she sits and shuts her piehole with her pencil in hand, ready to study. Once you have acheived that, continue the lesson.

This 10 minutes of effort will buy you 50% more respect. You will have to follow up with removing students for "time-outs" as necessary.

If your school's management is unsupportive - quit. There is no reason you can't find a position at another school within a week or two - remind your boss of this and of the fact that you are only requesting basic teacher support. Working in an environment, espeically in Korea, where you are shat upon as a teacher should be unacceptable to you and to the students you are trying to educate. Be clear in your own mind about this and you should be fine.


You've obviously not taught in a class where there are multiple kids who don't give a sh*t and who think it's a big joke to be sent out of the class.

And "quitting" as you suggest isn't nearly as easy as you make it out to be. Letters of Release, plane ticket refunds, severance, future reference.

And, by the way, most of us are shat upon, in some form or another. The system here in Korea is pitiful. It's a giant racket that has little to do with education.


Have you actually gone ahead and tried the approach?

Yes, some kids are little turds, though the OP describes the student as brilliant, so I'm assuming we're not talking about farmers' children (not to stereotype but you get my drift) and are instead talking about brats who can be controlled or at least managed. And as I've said before, in any standard environment in korea, an unmanaged class is a teacher failure, not a student failure.

As for quitting, threaten it only as a last resort, but be prepared to do it. Is it a 24 hour cake walk? No, but it's possilble. I'd rather go through the headache of that rather than work for a company who cares so little about its staff that it wouldn't be willing to extend even a shred of help towards a teacher needing backup to enforce the most basic discipline.... but that's just me. If the OP isn't willing or able to take a stand, there is very little chance the situation will change as there will be no spine behind it.

The system is populated by a lot of crap schools, though the system has been around long enough for sink-or-swim capitalism to set in. Schools that suck generally do not have large student populations, or are in decline. Is that a hard and fast rule? Hell no, but generally true. You get shat upon if you let yourself get shat upon... and while you have to eat crap and smile sometimes for your boss, who pays your checks, taking mouthy 6th graders' BS in a classroom you do NOT. Any school that chooses the mouthy 6th grader over the PITA-to-replace teacher is NOT a place you want to be working, and you should be looking for any way out you can reasonably find.

Before it gets to that, try cracking down. It will work 95% of the time.
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Globutron



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man it feels so good to have read this thread.

I always like to have fun with my classes - It's what I do. The classes swap alternate days between me and the Korean teacher and she is a brilliant teacher - far better than myself. She is lovely to good students and MEAN to the bad ones. Just a few quiet words have made them cry on numerous occasions. If only I knew what words.

Anyway The fun angle works wonders with every class I have - Except one.
6 girls and one in particular is exactly the same description as the OP. Smart - the smartest - but the last 2 months she's stopped caring.
She has even said she doesn't care. She says she hates everyone, including me. Except doctors and family. And when I say to speak only English, she bargains that I must speak only Korean - knowing I can't.

It's the BARGAINING that gets me the most. The nerve that she thinks she can. And I have been so soft (because the class USED to be great), they have all joined with her. Even when I yelled in anger the other day, I just saw one of them lean over, completely unaware of my existence and talk in Korean about something unrelated.
Amazing. I've said They will change class to the other foreigner (who they hate and I know) - they say they will all quit. I say I will tell the Korean teacher, they say 'do it, we don't care' and whisper some stuff sniggeringly to each other about me.

To think this was my FAVOURITE class for 5 months or so, and then it just went sour because of one girl who stopped caring.

Recently I had to have a double lesson with them and it was simply too much, I had to leave. I told my Korean teacher and apparently she has had a talk to them about how disrepectful they are and how they're lucky to have me and how they will be from now on. Next lesson is this evening (friday) so it should be interesting.
I did get a text from one saying 'Very very sorry Andy Teacher <3' Which was nice.

The suggestion of leaving the room would be laughed at by the way. I didn't want to keep bringing in Korean teachers because as someone else stated - they grow immune.
Plus, I've kind of seen it as practice. I'm slowly learning to be more strict using this class to actually get me angry - which is essentially impossible.

I suppose the 'fun teacher' will have to be removed from this class, which is a pity. They lost that right.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wishmaster wrote:
Pretend that she is Private Pyle. Punish all the other students when she does something that irks you. If that doesnt work, just have the students throw a blanket on her and have them put their pencil cases in towels and let them smack her a few times. Just hope she doesn't get access to a 7.62 mm anywhere. Might be bad for you.


This works. With boys. Not so much with girls.

Here are some ideas:

Call her parents. Some parents think their child is an angel. Other parents will here you complain and talk to her. Worth a try.

Deputize her. If she really is the big brain have her correct papers or do some other stuff that validates her intelligence yet keeps her under control and establishes you as the dominant half. Make it clear that she can only do this as long as she gets it right and does the job. If she doesn't, demote her to Dunce, 2nd Class, preferably by cataloging her errors in front of the class.

Ignore her. In a quietly assertive way just keep plugging away at the lesson and calling on other students. Seat her in some isolated corner of the class. She will probably say no, but here is where you have to be strong.

Blatantly play favorites with the number 2 girl or the number 1 boy. If you can't be punitive, just be positive to someone else. She'll get the message as to why she doesn't warrant preferential treatment.

Never let them see that they can make you flustered based on what they do. Always show that it is up to you how you respond.

THat and don't for a second care whether they like you or not. Your goal is to present and teach the material. Focus on that and let the other chips fall where they may.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two ideas.

- Reward the good students with something that she doesn't get (candy, stickers, the chance to leave 5 minutes early).

- Punish the whole class for her insolent behavior by making them stay late or taking away "movie day" or something.
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Murph



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I get to the point of frustration with students like this I usually do one of two things.

1. I stop the class and then proceed to ask the following questions (to everyone) and I receive the following answers.
Does your father (father or mother or parents) work? "Yes."

Does your father wake up early? "Yes"

Does your father look tired? "Yes."

Do you think that your father likes getting up early and working hard all day? "No."

Do you know that this school is expensive? "Yes"

Do you know who pays for you to come here? "My father."

Do you know that he does this for you because he loves you? "Yes"

Do you also know that when you don't work and act up you are wasting your fathers money? (This is usually when I see a brand new thought/perspective go into their minds.)

So kids, when you don't work, and behave poorly you are wasting your fathers money. You are basically telling your father, I don't care that you are tired, and I don't care that you wake up very early, and I don't care that you go to a stresful job that you don't like.

Is that what you want to do children? "No, (all eyes looking down at this point.)

Okay then lets get back to work.

2. If I have a true trouble student who always looks for attention, I usually just give the student what he or she wants Twisted Evil . When he or she does something to get attention (an insulting joke for example) I usually stop, and talk about the joke. I ask the students if they all heard the joke, and if they liked it. Then I ask the student who told the joke to tell another. Suddenly it's deadly quiet, and all the students are looking at this comedian. I say, "Go ahead tell another. Here is your chance, you've got all the attention you could possibly have so go for it."

Normally the student says no, and tries to end the situation, but I keep it going just long enough to let the awkwardness set in. I usually wait about 30 to 40 seconds after I see that the student truly doesn't like the situation he or she is in. At which point I say,
"Are you finished now?"
The student says "Yes"
I say "Are you sure? Because if you have a joke to tell this is your chance."
The student says "Yes I am finished."
I say "So if I start teaching again are you sure that you are not going to interrupt me?"
Student: "Yes teacher."
Teacher: "Okay lets get back to work everyone."

It usually takes a few rounds of this for the point to sink. Eventually however the comedian student will associate being a jerk with undesired awkwardness, and the jokes will stop, or at least become very watered down.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murph is awesome. I am modeling my classes after that suggestion.

In my opinion, the point is to never get mad. Remain eerily calm. If you get upset, they know that they have won. You can still glare, or yell a bit or single kids out, but above all else keep your composure. Let them know that they will never win.

Also, if one kid is acting up, I can be stern with him or her and make everything really awkward for them, and then go right back to being "fun teacher" with everyone else. Then the other students associate the awkwardness with that student and not with you, the teacher.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murph wrote:
When I get to the point of frustration with students like this I usually do one of two things.

1. I stop the class and then proceed to ask the following questions (to everyone) and I receive the following answers.
Does your father (father or mother or parents) work? "Yes."

Does your father wake up early? "Yes"

Does your father look tired? "Yes."

Do you think that your father likes getting up early and working hard all day? "No."

Do you know that this school is expensive? "Yes"

Do you know who pays for you to come here? "My father."

Do you know that he does this for you because he loves you? "Yes"

Do you also know that when you don't work and act up you are wasting your fathers money? (This is usually when I see a brand new thought/perspective go into their minds.)

So kids, when you don't work, and behave poorly you are wasting your fathers money. You are basically telling your father, I don't care that you are tired, and I don't care that you wake up very early, and I don't care that you go to a stresful job that you don't like.

Is that what you want to do children? "No, (all eyes looking down at this point.)

Okay then lets get back to work.

2. If I have a true trouble student who always looks for attention, I usually just give the student what he or she wants Twisted Evil . When he or she does something to get attention (an insulting joke for example) I usually stop, and talk about the joke. I ask the students if they all heard the joke, and if they liked it. Then I ask the student who told the joke to tell another. Suddenly it's deadly quiet, and all the students are looking at this comedian. I say, "Go ahead tell another. Here is your chance, you've got all the attention you could possibly have so go for it."

Normally the student says no, and tries to end the situation, but I keep it going just long enough to let the awkwardness set in. I usually wait about 30 to 40 seconds after I see that the student truly doesn't like the situation he or she is in. At which point I say,
"Are you finished now?"
The student says "Yes"
I say "Are you sure? Because if you have a joke to tell this is your chance."
The student says "Yes I am finished."
I say "So if I start teaching again are you sure that you are not going to interrupt me?"
Student: "Yes teacher."
Teacher: "Okay lets get back to work everyone."

It usually takes a few rounds of this for the point to sink. Eventually however the comedian student will associate being a jerk with undesired awkwardness, and the jokes will stop, or at least become very watered down.


Excellent advice. Unfortunately, it wouldn't work for a public school. Sad

If that doesn't work, the tried and true left high kick to the temple always keeps kids in line. That'll show 'em.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last line of defense I have always used was to have a letter typed in English (and a Korean translation) for a student to send to his mother or father and have him/her sign it along with the student's signature. If I didn't get it back the next day, I would ask for my co-teacher, their homeroom teacher or my superior to call their parents and notify them about their child's behavior.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smartwentcrazy wrote:
Murph wrote:
When I get to the point of frustration with students like this I usually do one of two things.

1. I stop the class and then proceed to ask the following questions (to everyone) and I receive the following answers.
Does your father (father or mother or parents) work? "Yes."

Does your father wake up early? "Yes"

Does your father look tired? "Yes."

Do you think that your father likes getting up early and working hard all day? "No."

Do you know that this school is expensive? "Yes"

Do you know who pays for you to come here? "My father."

Do you know that he does this for you because he loves you? "Yes"

Do you also know that when you don't work and act up you are wasting your fathers money? (This is usually when I see a brand new thought/perspective go into their minds.)

So kids, when you don't work, and behave poorly you are wasting your fathers money. You are basically telling your father, I don't care that you are tired, and I don't care that you wake up very early, and I don't care that you go to a stresful job that you don't like.

Is that what you want to do children? "No, (all eyes looking down at this point.)

Okay then lets get back to work.

2. If I have a true trouble student who always looks for attention, I usually just give the student what he or she wants Twisted Evil . When he or she does something to get attention (an insulting joke for example) I usually stop, and talk about the joke. I ask the students if they all heard the joke, and if they liked it. Then I ask the student who told the joke to tell another. Suddenly it's deadly quiet, and all the students are looking at this comedian. I say, "Go ahead tell another. Here is your chance, you've got all the attention you could possibly have so go for it."

Normally the student says no, and tries to end the situation, but I keep it going just long enough to let the awkwardness set in. I usually wait about 30 to 40 seconds after I see that the student truly doesn't like the situation he or she is in. At which point I say,
"Are you finished now?"
The student says "Yes"
I say "Are you sure? Because if you have a joke to tell this is your chance."
The student says "Yes I am finished."
I say "So if I start teaching again are you sure that you are not going to interrupt me?"
Student: "Yes teacher."
Teacher: "Okay lets get back to work everyone."

It usually takes a few rounds of this for the point to sink. Eventually however the comedian student will associate being a jerk with undesired awkwardness, and the jokes will stop, or at least become very watered down.


Excellent advice. Unfortunately, it wouldn't work for a public school. Sad


The first part wouldn't, but I just tried the second tip in my last class, and it worked well. One student made an asinine comment about something, and I just zoned in on him... everything got really quiet, and I asked him the questions, although simplified, 'Do you think you're funny?' 'Can you make another joke?' After that, no problems for the rest of the class.

Thanks, Murph.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murph wrote:

2. If I have a true trouble student who always looks for attention, I usually just give the student what he or she wants Twisted Evil . When he or she does something to get attention (an insulting joke for example) I usually stop, and talk about the joke. I ask the students if they all heard the joke, and if they liked it. Then I ask the student who told the joke to tell another. Suddenly it's deadly quiet, and all the students are looking at this comedian. I say, "Go ahead tell another. Here is your chance, you've got all the attention you could possibly have so go for it."

Normally the student says no, and tries to end the situation, but I keep it going just long enough to let the awkwardness set in. I usually wait about 30 to 40 seconds after I see that the student truly doesn't like the situation he or she is in. At which point I say,
"Are you finished now?"
The student says "Yes"
I say "Are you sure? Because if you have a joke to tell this is your chance."
The student says "Yes I am finished."
I say "So if I start teaching again are you sure that you are not going to interrupt me?"
Student: "Yes teacher."
Teacher: "Okay lets get back to work everyone."

It usually takes a few rounds of this for the point to sink. Eventually however the comedian student will associate being a jerk with undesired awkwardness, and the jokes will stop, or at least become very watered down.


I have used this tactic a couple times in my 3 years teaching at a hagwon (if other attempts have failed and a student says something very disrespectful that I cannot let slip by).....it does indeed work well. The key is not to portray anger, but to speak slowly and firmly with long pauses, looking the student directly in the eyes.

It's more chilling and awkward if I use a quiet but firm voice, and just stare the student down with a cold expression (I'm usually joking and having fun in my classes) while waiting for him to answer my question.
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