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what other gravy train occupations are there?

 
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Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: what other gravy train occupations are there? Reply with quote

teaching in korea can be a cruisy job if u can get a good employer (good pay, little effort required in working, low working hours)...

what other cruisy occupations are there out there (globally) that only require a general bachelors degree?


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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can teach English in some countries without even having a BA.

It depends on what you consider an easy job. When I was younger, I sometimes did manual labor type jobs in several countries - construction, picking fruit, loading and unloading. I've also done menial work in bars, restaurants and hotels - cleaning, serving, etc. I found most of those job a lot easier than ELT. I went into work at a specific time. I did a specific job. When it was done, sometimes I stood around with my workmates waiting for the boss to give me another task. I didn't have to think too much. And when my shift finished, the job was done. My free time was all mine. The pay varies from country to country and varies from just able to get by to very good pay.
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can make more money teaching in the middle east (look on the international jobs forum for proof). Of course you'll sacrifice lifestyle for money. Speaking of the middle east and depending on a few extra criteria there are contracting jobs in the war zone areas (Afghanistan, Iraq) that pay very, very well.
Iraq can actually be a relatively 'safe' (safe is relative) job if you secure a job in the kurdistan region. There is little in the way of insurgents in that region. It operates almost like a country within a country.
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imoscardotcom



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is this:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/rent-a-white-guy/8119/

At first I was disgusted by this but then a friend pointed out that this happens (almost) everywhere...it's just not as blatant. Is this much different than Korean schools asking for N. American teachers only?.... Confused
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Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

imoscardotcom wrote:
There is this:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/rent-a-white-guy/8119/

At first I was disgusted by this but then a friend pointed out that this happens (almost) everywhere...it's just not as blatant. Is this much different than Korean schools asking for N. American teachers only?.... Confused


Really? Disgusted?
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sirius black wrote:
You can make more money teaching in the middle east (look on the international jobs forum for proof). Of course you'll sacrifice lifestyle for money. Speaking of the middle east and depending on a few extra criteria there are contracting jobs in the war zone areas (Afghanistan, Iraq) that pay very, very well.
Iraq can actually be a relatively 'safe' (safe is relative) job if you secure a job in the kurdistan region. There is little in the way of insurgents in that region. It operates almost like a country within a country.


I would only take a job like that if they provide me with free body armor, a kevlar helmet, and a rifle.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there jobs in Iraq that don't require either absurdly high (i.e. Senior Defense Policy Analyst) or absurdly low (Latrine Digger/Cannon Fodder) qualifications? Something entry level office type? One of these days Old NK will fall down and it'd be nice to bring some experience to the table in that rebuilding situation.

Other than that I was looking at Physician's Assistant. Just need an MA and basically you have to deal with annoying and ugly and sick people, run some tests on them and inject them, and turn everything over to the doctor who gets more money but more blame (you can't be sued). Pays 70-80k a year.
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mc_jc



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One of these days Old NK will fall down and it'd be nice to bring some experience to the table in that rebuilding situation.


The problem is that the US, Korea and China signed an accord that would keep their military presence out of NK. Though, I think a ton of contractor positions with NGOs would definitely open up and being in Korea, you position youself for them very easily.
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quack Addict wrote:
imoscardotcom wrote:
There is this:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/rent-a-white-guy/8119/

At first I was disgusted by this but then a friend pointed out that this happens (almost) everywhere...it's just not as blatant. Is this much different than Korean schools asking for N. American teachers only?.... Confused


Really? Disgusted?


I've got no problem with it as strange as it seems. Great gig if you can get it. A grand a week? To do practicaly nothing? Puh-leeze! Also, there is a bit of hypocracy here. Many of us were hired solely because you're a white western face. In many cases some of us on here were hired over a western minority who had better credentials as well. We'd march in the streets back home if it happened there but take the money here despite the overt racism in schools.

I spend an hour on Saturdays 'coaching' 10 and 11 year olds in soccer despite their being much better than me in the sport having never played it myself (although I'm a huge fan). They wanted a western face and at 50 an hour, who am I to say no? More kids have signed up since because parents see (erroneously other than 'good' and 'great goal' i don't teach english) a way of combining english class with soccer practice.
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Are there jobs in Iraq that don't require either absurdly high (i.e. Senior Defense Policy Analyst) or absurdly low (Latrine Digger/Cannon Fodder) qualifications? Something entry level office type?


I hear they exist but not in great numbers. Its asking a lot to be paid a great amount of money for an entry level office job as it is for truck driver, etc. but they do exist.

http://www.overseasdigest.com/jobs-in-iraq.htm

Some civilian contractor jobs start at $80,000. Others pay even more. A truck driver earning $30,000 in the US may be able to get a job in Iraq paying $70,000, $80,000 or even $90,000 a year...

and

A partial list of these jobs include: Advisor ($62,000 to $97,000), Logistics Program Coordinator ($62,886 TO $97,213), Contract Specialist ($62,886 to $97,213), and Field Services Officer ($62,886 to $97,213)...
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are not gravy train jobs, but they are great opportunities to earn and save significant money and have a close camaraderie of new friends. While many married people go to Iraq in the name of seriously stacking Franklin notes, this is really awesome for single people needing a few dollars to buy their house and other investments. You got no family? It's a go! I want one of them jobs next year, but the last thing mom wants to hear is I'd go to Iraq for a job. Since mom isn't buying me a house and paying my way through life, I can go work any job I can land now that I'm grown up. I tried a few years ago on USA jobs.com with no response from Haliburton, but now there seems to be many more companies and tons of positions so the chances are greater at getting something at some point in the next year.
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