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dfunk



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:41 am    Post subject: I need advice...Please Reply with quote

First of all, I want to thank anyone who takes the time to read this. I hope this post isn�t too long, but I need to explain my situation in detail so I can get the proper feedback.

In August 2009, I finished my 2nd contract in Korea. Before my visa was up, I found a new job and with them, applied for my new visa. This visa was processed and started on the 19th of August. However, my contract with my new employer stated that I would begin working on the 26th of August, a week later.

Near the end of my contract, I began noticing that my employer was struggling finically. When my visa expired on the 19th of August, 2010, I was told that I would receive my severance pay within 15 days. Well I didn�t. From that point on, I was always told next week, next week. Well I waited almost two months and still nothing. Finally, I decided to file a complaint to the Labour Board. They began their investigation.

Here comes the bad news. I was told that because I didn�t work a full year with that company (August 26th, 2009 � August 26th, 2010), I am not entitled to my severance. Under Korean labour laws, you must work a full contracted year in order to receive your severance.

My issue is that my visa expired on 19th of August therefore I could not complete my contract legally. My employer did not mention any of this to me and simply told me that I was done on the 19th.

Is there anything I can do? The Labour Board says I have no case. I feel helpless. He owes me close to $2500. Shouldn�t the visa dates and the dates of actual employment coincide with one another?

Any help, thoughts, suggestions, and/or similar experiences that anyone has to share are greatly appreciated. I�ve been here in Korea for almost 4 years and this is the first time that anything like this has happened to me. Maybe it�s completely my own stupidity, but I hope not. It�s too much money.

Thanks again for reading.
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch that is a total bummer. I'm sorry to hear that.

But I don't think you have a case. I don't mean to kick you while you're down, so don't take this offensively. What your boss and you should have done (and others in this situation) was apply for an E2 extension to cover you for the full 12 months.
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dfunk



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I'm afraid of.

I just feel I was cheated a bit. The fact that he never suggested I extend my visa, or had to, to complete my contract frustrates me.
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dfunk wrote:
That's what I'm afraid of.

I just feel I was cheated a bit. The fact that he never suggested I extend my visa, or had to, to complete my contract frustrates me.


You were cheated your boss sounds like a cheap C*&%. You gave them nearly a year of service. Loyalty to workers is high up on my list and this person seems to lack it.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: I need advice...Please Reply with quote

dfunk wrote:
Here comes the bad news. I was told that because I didn�t work a full year with that company (August 26th, 2009 � August 26th, 2010), I am not entitled to my severance. Under Korean labour laws, you must work a full contracted year in order to receive your severance.


That's a year and a day. One year is 26 August 2009 to 25 August 2010.

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My issue is that my visa expired on 19th of August therefore I could not complete my contract legally. My employer did not mention any of this to me and simply told me that I was done on the 19th.


How could your visa expire before a year's work at the place? Remember that your working year begins the very day you enter the country on an E-2 visa, even if that entry day happens to be a Saturday. Check your contract to be sure it states "one year" for period of employment. If so, it doesn't matter what date he thinks he can be rid of you and his financial obligation.

What you need to do is show the Labor Board that you entered the country on a particular date, sponsored by this particular employer, and that you did work a full year (as I indicated above what the year is) for that employer.
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:00 am    Post subject: Re: I need advice...Please Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
That's a year and a day. One year is 26 August 2009 to 25 August 2010.


I think he only worked from August 26, 2009 to August 19, 2010.

CentralCali wrote:

How could your visa expire before a year's work at the place? Remember that your working year begins the very day you enter the country on an E-2 visa, even if that entry day happens to be a Saturday. Check your contract to be sure it states "one year" for period of employment. If so, it doesn't matter what date he thinks he can be rid of you and his financial obligation.

What you need to do is show the Labor Board that you entered the country on a particular date, sponsored by this particular employer, and that you did work a full year (as I indicated above what the year is) for that employer.


There was a time during swine flu last year where they wanted the teachers to arrive a week before they were to begin working for a week quarantine... well, I guess an anti-quarantine. You could go anywhere but the school, lol.

You are right, his visa began when he arrived in the country, but he probably arrived before his contract began. This might be a problem for more people coming up. I've heard about people running out of visa before they ran out of contract before, especially if they want to come in a week or so early to get settled in or visit friends before they start working.
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be an idea to name and shame your school once you've finally cut off all ties, so that others don't end up in the same situation. Sounds like he set your start date back a week in order to squirm out of paying you severance.
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sucks....

If you really have no legal recourse, which unfortunately sounds like it may be the case, I would have a "friend" put the school's name up in lights. Everywhere on the internet you can. And have the same "friend" warn everybody else who works there about the scummy employment practices. Make sure it is a friend though, and not yourself, so as to save yourself from any potential problems.

Or long term, you could get married, open a hagwon across the street from it and put them out of business. Best served cold, right?


So not cool!
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP Your contract should state the start and finish dates.

What was the start and finish date on your contract? Were the dates 26 Aug 2009 to 25 Aug 2010? This is important.

You have to work one full year from the start date to the end date on your contract. You must work these dates to get severance. Not working even one day short of these dates nullifies your severance. Sorry, no exceptions.


However, you are considered working from the start date on your contract. So if you didn't start teaching till after that date, and your boss didn't get you to sign another contract (with a delayed date), then your term of employments still starts and finishes on the contracted dates.

EPIK PS get around the problem of teachers arriving nearly 2 weeks before they start teaching (unpaid orientation) by making teachers sign a new contract when they arrive (with a delayed starting date). That requires EPIK teachers to get an extension at Immigration (30,000 w) to cover their extended stay in Korea - so they can complete their one year contract term.

Please get back to us with the start and finish dates on your contract.
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