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E-2 Policy Changes Cancelled!?
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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
Justsurfin12 wrote:
northway

If you're on a single entry visa that means you can only enter the country one time-- the time you did when you first arrived. If you leave the country for any reason, your current visa does not let you enter the country a second time.

A multi-entry visa, on the other hand, is just that-- you can come and go from Korea as many times as you like until it expires.

The E-2 rules really have nothing to do with whether your visa is single or multi-entry.


If you're wanting to leave the country for vacation, you should check with your local immigration office to see if they can convert your single entry to a multi-entry visa (for a price of course! I think it's 60,000 but I may be completely wrong on the $$).

When I renewed my visa they originally did it as a single entry. Before leaving the office, I asked the woman specifically about it-- and when she told me it was only single, not multi, I then went over and paid the additional money and she changed it in my passport, etc. right then.


This isn't true, you just get a new single entry when you leave the country, I know plenty of people who've done it. And previously, people on here stated that if you left and came back on a single entry you would have to provide the new documents upon returning. I'd appreciate it if someone more knowledgeable could answer my question.


If you leave the country on a single entry e-2 visa you have effectively canceled said visa.

Hence the 'single entry' part.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

runthegauntlet wrote:
northway wrote:
Justsurfin12 wrote:
northway

If you're on a single entry visa that means you can only enter the country one time-- the time you did when you first arrived. If you leave the country for any reason, your current visa does not let you enter the country a second time.

A multi-entry visa, on the other hand, is just that-- you can come and go from Korea as many times as you like until it expires.

The E-2 rules really have nothing to do with whether your visa is single or multi-entry.


If you're wanting to leave the country for vacation, you should check with your local immigration office to see if they can convert your single entry to a multi-entry visa (for a price of course! I think it's 60,000 but I may be completely wrong on the $$).

When I renewed my visa they originally did it as a single entry. Before leaving the office, I asked the woman specifically about it-- and when she told me it was only single, not multi, I then went over and paid the additional money and she changed it in my passport, etc. right then.


This isn't true, you just get a new single entry when you leave the country, I know plenty of people who've done it. And previously, people on here stated that if you left and came back on a single entry you would have to provide the new documents upon returning. I'd appreciate it if someone more knowledgeable could answer my question.


If you leave the country on a single entry e-2 visa you have effectively canceled said visa.

Hence the 'single entry' part.


My understanding is that you get another one from immigration prior to leaving the country, according to my friend who was on a single entry and left the country and came back without issue.
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Sector7G



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:

My understanding is that you get another one from immigration prior to leaving the country, according to my friend who was on a single entry and left the country and came back without issue.


I can confirm this is true. Get a re-entry permit at the airport or any other immi office before you leave or your E2 is effectively canceled upon return. They will still allow you in, but only on the 90 day tourist visa. To work again, you have to go through the whole visa process again.
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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
runthegauntlet wrote:
northway wrote:
Justsurfin12 wrote:
northway

If you're on a single entry visa that means you can only enter the country one time-- the time you did when you first arrived. If you leave the country for any reason, your current visa does not let you enter the country a second time.

A multi-entry visa, on the other hand, is just that-- you can come and go from Korea as many times as you like until it expires.

The E-2 rules really have nothing to do with whether your visa is single or multi-entry.


If you're wanting to leave the country for vacation, you should check with your local immigration office to see if they can convert your single entry to a multi-entry visa (for a price of course! I think it's 60,000 but I may be completely wrong on the $$).

When I renewed my visa they originally did it as a single entry. Before leaving the office, I asked the woman specifically about it-- and when she told me it was only single, not multi, I then went over and paid the additional money and she changed it in my passport, etc. right then.


This isn't true, you just get a new single entry when you leave the country, I know plenty of people who've done it. And previously, people on here stated that if you left and came back on a single entry you would have to provide the new documents upon returning. I'd appreciate it if someone more knowledgeable could answer my question.



If you leave the country on a single entry e-2 visa you have effectively canceled said visa.

Hence the 'single entry' part.


My understanding is that you get another one from immigration prior to leaving the country, according to my friend who was on a single entry and left the country and came back without issue.


Yeah, you can get a multiple entry sticker added to your existing visa. You must do so before you leave.

You don't get a new E2 visa, though. What 'Justsurfin12' said is exactly right.


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northway



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

runthegauntlet wrote:
Yeah, you can get a multiple entry sticker added to your existing visa. You must do so before you leave.

You don't get a new E2 visa, though.


This isn't the case, you get a new single entry prior to leaving, see Sector 7G's post above. It's not worth it for me to pay the $60 for four months of multiple entry when I can pay $30 for a new single entry, which is why I didn't get the multiple entry when I extended.

I still need my question answered though: does leaving on a single entry qualify as a change of status requiring that I have the new documents, or am I chilling considering my E-2 is still valid?
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
runthegauntlet wrote:
Yeah, you can get a multiple entry sticker added to your existing visa. You must do so before you leave.

You don't get a new E2 visa, though.


This isn't the case, you get a new single entry prior to leaving, see Sector 7G's post above. It's not worth it for me to pay the $60 for four months of multiple entry when I can pay $30 for a new single entry, which is why I didn't get the multiple entry when I extended.

I still need my question answered though: does leaving on a single entry qualify as a change of status requiring that I have the new documents, or am I chilling considering my E-2 is still valid?


Yeah. Added to your visa. Not a new visa.

I think we're misunderstanding each other or something.

No. How would it change your visa status if your visa was amended to allow reentry?! You're not getting a new visa.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

runthegauntlet wrote:
northway wrote:
runthegauntlet wrote:
Yeah, you can get a multiple entry sticker added to your existing visa. You must do so before you leave.

You don't get a new E2 visa, though.


This isn't the case, you get a new single entry prior to leaving, see Sector 7G's post above. It's not worth it for me to pay the $60 for four months of multiple entry when I can pay $30 for a new single entry, which is why I didn't get the multiple entry when I extended.

I still need my question answered though: does leaving on a single entry qualify as a change of status requiring that I have the new documents, or am I chilling considering my E-2 is still valid?


Yeah. Added to your visa. Not a new visa.

I think we're misunderstanding each other or something.

No. How would it change your visa status if your visa was amended to allow reentry?! You're not getting a new visa.


I'm not sure if it's a sticker or a slip, but it's not a multiple-entry visa, it's a new single-entry visa, at least according to those I know who have done it.
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Sector7G



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:

I'm not sure if it's a sticker or a slip, but it's not a multiple-entry visa, it's a new single-entry visa, at least according to those I know who have done it.


It's a one time sticker, and if memory serves me right it cost me 30,000 won last December(09) at Incheon Airport.

If you have the time you can go to a regular immi office and get your single entry visa changed to multi. I am not sure of the cost, but I do remember calculating and it all depends on how many trips you plan on taking abroad on whether it is worth the added cost to switch to multi or just pay for re-entry each time.
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
runthegauntlet wrote:
northway wrote:
runthegauntlet wrote:
Yeah, you can get a multiple entry sticker added to your existing visa. You must do so before you leave.

You don't get a new E2 visa, though.


This isn't the case, you get a new single entry prior to leaving, see Sector 7G's post above. It's not worth it for me to pay the $60 for four months of multiple entry when I can pay $30 for a new single entry, which is why I didn't get the multiple entry when I extended.

I still need my question answered though: does leaving on a single entry qualify as a change of status requiring that I have the new documents, or am I chilling considering my E-2 is still valid?


Yeah. Added to your visa. Not a new visa.

I think we're misunderstanding each other or something.

No. How would it change your visa status if your visa was amended to allow reentry?! You're not getting a new visa.


I'm not sure if it's a sticker or a slip, but it's not a multiple-entry visa, it's a new single-entry visa, at least according to those I know who have done it.


No, again, it's not a visa period. You're NOT getting a new visa.
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I-am-me



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So new policy is not effective until 2011? No new CBC or apostilles when renewing?
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I-am-me wrote:
So new policy is not effective until 2011? No new CBC or apostilles when renewing?


Looks like it. My application was processed and I have my ARC back with the change in date on it and a multiple entry sticker in my passport without either of those things. Having said that, it's probably not a bad idea to get those things just in case (I have mine on order just in case I do end up needing them).
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tgrear2008



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fairly confused by this thread. If I renew at the same school, next year Aug 10, 2011, I will not need any extra paperwork (FBI CBC, Original Degree), is this correct?

Now here's the confusing part. I arrived Aug 10, 2010. I didnt get my ARC card until last week, Oct 20. There was a hold up due to the policy changes. When I received my ARC card I also got a paper that made me promise to bring a Federal CBC and my original degree next time I make any changes. Is this letter now cancelled as well?

I guess I can just find out next spring and summer when all the dust settles from this fiasco. Did anyone else go through the same scenario as I did?
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Los Angeloser



Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tgrear2008 wrote:
I'm fairly confused by this thread. If I renew at the same school, next year Aug 10, 2011, I will not need any extra paperwork (FBI CBC, Original Degree), is this correct?

Now here's the confusing part. I arrived Aug 10, 2010. I didnt get my ARC card until last week, Oct 20. There was a hold up due to the policy changes. When I received my ARC card I also got a paper that made me promise to bring a Federal CBC and my original degree next time I make any changes. Is this letter now cancelled as well?

I guess I can just find out next spring and summer when all the dust settles from this fiasco. Did anyone else go through the same scenario as I did?


Don't get the new diploma with apostile rule through the Korean Council for University Education(KCUE) [for those teachers already in Korea] mixed up with the supposed new American FBI criminal record check rule. Of course if you aren't in Korea teachers were to have gotten the diploma apostilled in their home country. As far as I know the FBI checks for Americans will still be required starting Jan. 1st, 2011. The only place that I know of where we can learn about that is below -- only place the Korean Immigration Service(KIS) has updated or readable posts/information on the E-2 visa process...
For more information on the (new?) changes, see: http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/index.html
Click on English, next, type "E2 Conversation Teacher" in the search box and on the next page, scroll down to "Conversation Teacher (E2) related system improvement notice," where you can read the full text on the new changes.
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seoulsucker



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2010/10/new-e-2-rules-to-be-postponed-to-2012.html

Gusts is claiming a victory...
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Los Angeloser



Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsucker wrote:
http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2010/10/new-e-2-rules-to-be-postponed-to-2012.html

Gusts is claiming a victory...


I wonder whether and if so how long it will take the Korean Immigration Service to post(on the Hi Korea website) or make this information public?
The ever changing E-2 visa process is probably why KIS doesn't post new "rules" on their own website. So idiotic!
Maybe we could be better teachers if we didn't have to waste time keeping up on Immigration's supposed new or never ending rules/changes?
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