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Berlitz 5 Day training?

 
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Isehtis



Joined: 07 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:08 am    Post subject: Berlitz 5 Day training? Reply with quote

I'm leaving soon for Korea, and I know I have a 5 day training course. I'm with Berlitz, does anyone have any ideas what to expect from the training?
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will you be teaching adults or children?
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prepare yourself for a rocky ride. Berlitz will suck you dry.
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SteveSteve



Joined: 30 Jul 2010
Location: Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to work for Berlitz. Their method (actually called the Direct Method by applied linguists) actually works well for very low beginners -- people who have absolutely no language ability. Beyond the high beginning level, the "Berlitz Method" can be quite insulting to a student's intelligence, even boring at most times. They're also sticklers for correcting student errors on the spot 100% of the time. Extremely demotivating if you're just starting to learn a new language.

Very little lesson planning is required because you are supposed to use the Berlitz materials, which spells out everything for you. Your class sizes will be extremely small, too. Mostly private tutoring and "group" classes may only have a maximum of three students. Not very helpful if you're planning pair activities.

If you're working full time at Berlitz in Korea, you'll probably be drained. However most of your students will be adults and it's generally low stress.
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll probably spend your 5 days of training in their listen-and-repeat style method which is what Berlitz is all about.

A friend used to teach for Berlitz in Japan. Essentially her day was to model all the sentences, then have the students repeat after her. It was kind of like:

T: What's this?
S: What's this?
T: What's that?
S: What's that?
T: What's this?
S: What's this?
T: This is a pen.
S: This is a pen.
T: This is a red pen.
and so on...

Maybe the method can work for some students, but for a teacher, it is very mechanical, and as someone else said, there is little scope for you to be creative and introduce your own lesson ideas.

The only 'bonus' for the teacher is that you will be able to transfer to other Berlitz schools in other countries quite easily.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteveSteve wrote:
I used to work for Berlitz. Their method (actually called the Direct Method by applied linguists) actually works well for very low beginners -- people who have absolutely no language ability. Beyond the high beginning level, the "Berlitz Method" can be quite insulting to a student's intelligence, even boring at most times. They're also sticklers for correcting student errors on the spot 100% of the time. Extremely demotivating if you're just starting to learn a new language.

Very little lesson planning is required because you are supposed to use the Berlitz materials, which spells out everything for you. Your class sizes will be extremely small, too. Mostly private tutoring and "group" classes may only have a maximum of three students. Not very helpful if you're planning pair activities.

If you're working full time at Berlitz in Korea, you'll probably be drained. However most of your students will be adults and it's generally low stress.



I worked for Berlitz once in another country. I didn't find it too bad. It's all fairly straight forward. I wouldn't say that the method is only applicable to beginners, as it can be used well for any elementary level students, but as you say, it might be come tedious for an intermediate level student.

I would say that the method is more Audio-Lingual than DM. It's usefulness depends a lot on what the students want to use the language for. If you only want to learn the basics in a short time or use English for a specific purpose, the method has it's benefits.

But I've never worked at a Korean Berlitz school, so I can't really say how the working atmosphere is here.
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Isehtis



Joined: 07 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies guys, I'd searched for Berlitz on the forums and had seen that a few years ago they had a really bad reputation. Despite having signed up for a tonne of recruiters, 2 months down the line I still only had the one job offer, so I took it even though it was kinda a shit contract-

Pay isn't great

Get a housing allowance instead of accommodation, the allowance won't really cover my accommodation costs

Split shifts, 6-9AM and 6-9PM at 2 different schools.

Berlitz has a pretty dodgy reputation for how it treats its employees.


But heh, anything that gets me out of this country...


Edit-
I'll be teaching adults, I've heard a lot of criticism of the Berlitz method... I'm halfway through an ESL course and from what I've learnt so far it does seem like a flawed system. Ironic that I'd spent the better half of the interview saying why I thought the direct method was so bad...
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That you've already read a lot of negative stuff about them, but have still signed makes you pretty brave Wink

I think if there's anything positive, teaching in the Berlitz method makes great first-hand data for later DELTA/MA linguistics papers!

Anyway, I would absolutely pass on this schedule:

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Split shifts, 6-9AM and 6-9PM at 2 different schools.


Do you know how far apart the schools are? Not meaning to put you off, but in likelihood, you'll not get any opportunity to properly rest through the whole day if your housing is not at least next to one of the schools you're working at. You'll also likely be too tired to go out in the evenings or be able to explore Korea.

That's an EXHAUSTING schedule, and I'd rather be staying back home working in McDonalds if that would be my only option in Korea.
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also just struck me that you might need to check out getting 2 work sites approved by K-immi.

Don't know how Berlitz do it, but I guess they just declare one working address. That address goes on your Alien Reg Card, and you are only supposed to be working at THAT address only.
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Isehtis



Joined: 07 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hotpants- I signed the contract because there was nothing else going. I don't sleep much and can do it any time during the day, the hours will be a bitch but I guess I'll just live for the weekends.

I'm not sure about the two schools, originally I was told one was in Gangnam and one was in Gwanganhum, but this may have changed... Waiting to hear back in the next couple of days.

I was curious about what the training would be like?
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad I don't work for Berlitz. Doesn't sound interesting at all.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never understand how people can only get 1 job offer in 2 months. No one that I've personally known has gotten so few. Usually people get a few offers in the first couple weeks at least. AT LEAST!
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Isehtis



Joined: 07 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a bit of a puzzle to me as well, I'd contacted 25+ Recruiters with a good CV and Photo, had no preference on location, age or pay, had all of my documents assembled and was a first-timer from one of the best universities in Britain.
The majority of the recruiters that advertised as having hundreds of jobs available gave no reply at all really, a few recruiters sent me quite honest replies saying that while they'd try and match me with a school, a year ago there was 10 jobs for every 1 candidate, and now there was 10 candidates for each job.

I wouldn't have signed this contract if a better one had been there, but I reckon I can ride it out for a year.
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