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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of times recently I've run a little test.

I'd attempt to watch a youtube video. Even a fairly short 2:00 one. It would stop to load every 10 seconds. Unwatchable.

Then I'd run the internet speed test and get a solid 80mbps download speed. Insanely fast (LGpowercom).

Something must be up with Youtube.........or it could still be the ISP capping Youtube.

Interestingly, this article is now on the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8299951.stm

I wonder how much bandwidth do the Youtube servers have?

And if they run low on bandwidth, would they throttle certain parts of the world?
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:


And if they run low on bandwidth, would they throttle certain parts of the world?


That could be it, it could be restrictions on YouTubes side rather than on the Korean side. YouTube is a business and needs to allocate resources to receptive audiences.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been brutal today..nothing but 5KB/s all day.. completely unusable.
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gillod



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
A couple of times recently I've run a little test.

I'd attempt to watch a youtube video. Even a fairly short 2:00 one. It would stop to load every 10 seconds. Unwatchable.

Then I'd run the internet speed test and get a solid 80mbps download speed. Insanely fast (LGpowercom).

Something must be up with Youtube.........or it could still be the ISP capping Youtube.

Interestingly, this article is now on the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8299951.stm

I wonder how much bandwidth do the Youtube servers have?

And if they run low on bandwidth, would they throttle certain parts of the world?


They serve off of multiple servers: A high bandwith for the first 10 or 20 seconds of the video, then a slower server for the remainder. The problem with most folks who have slow YouTube is that they always get served from that 2nd server. The fix is complicated.

Alas. My YouTube is fine at work, a total drag at home.
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps the speed is all right if the Korean censored version is used? I'm sure most people like to post the odd comment so they stay logged into the global version. I was suffering exactly the same fate last night but didn't bother changing my preferences. Quick flix was working perfectly too so it wasn't a problem with streaming.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope, I'm using the SK location right now and it doesn't make any difference.
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gillod



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
nope, I'm using the SK location right now and it doesn't make any difference.


'Location' is just a content filter.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gillod wrote:
crossmr wrote:
nope, I'm using the SK location right now and it doesn't make any difference.


'Location' is just a content filter.


I also went to youtube.co.kr and it made no difference.
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gillod wrote:
eamo wrote:
A couple of times recently I've run a little test.

I'd attempt to watch a youtube video. Even a fairly short 2:00 one. It would stop to load every 10 seconds. Unwatchable.

Then I'd run the internet speed test and get a solid 80mbps download speed. Insanely fast (LGpowercom).

Something must be up with Youtube.........or it could still be the ISP capping Youtube.

Interestingly, this article is now on the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8299951.stm

I wonder how much bandwidth do the Youtube servers have?

And if they run low on bandwidth, would they throttle certain parts of the world?


They serve off of multiple servers: A high bandwith for the first 10 or 20 seconds of the video, then a slower server for the remainder. The problem with most folks who have slow YouTube is that they always get served from that 2nd server. The fix is complicated.

Alas. My YouTube is fine at work, a total drag at home.


Too complicated for us to understand I guess.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if WoW is cheaper in Korea. Koreans aren't used to paying for games and their expansions, I so I'm going to poke around the website and see if you get them for free with a Korean account.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/10/youtube-bandwidth/

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YouTube�s Bandwidth Bill Is Zero. Welcome to the New Net

YouTube may pay less to be online than you do, a new report on internet connectivity suggests, calling into question a recent analysis arguing Google�s popular video service is bleeding money and demonstrating how the internet has continued to morph to fit user�s behavior.

In fact, with YouTube�s help, Google is now responsible for at least 6 percent of the internet�s traffic, and likely more � and may not be paying an ISP at all to serve up all that content and attached ads.
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gillod



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/10/youtube-bandwidth/

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YouTube�s Bandwidth Bill Is Zero. Welcome to the New Net

YouTube may pay less to be online than you do, a new report on internet connectivity suggests, calling into question a recent analysis arguing Google�s popular video service is bleeding money and demonstrating how the internet has continued to morph to fit user�s behavior.

In fact, with YouTube�s help, Google is now responsible for at least 6 percent of the internet�s traffic, and likely more � and may not be paying an ISP at all to serve up all that content and attached ads.


They may pay 0 for the bandwith, but the cost for data centers to host all this servers is huge. Heating & Cooling & Tech Staff. I'm not sure this article makes a lick of sense.
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richardlang



Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A side note: I use Keepvid.com to download Youtube videos into MP4 format so I can use them in class. It downloads the video straight to your computer. Remember to always do this (or load the full clip in Youtube before class/presentation time)!
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richardlang wrote:
A side note: I use Keepvid.com to download Youtube videos into MP4 format so I can use them in class. It downloads the video straight to your computer. Remember to always do this (or load the full clip in Youtube before class/presentation time)!


Haha, hot tip. I've only made that mistake once. I use downloadhelper, it's a firefox extension.
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Slowmotion



Joined: 15 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So slow omg.
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