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degree - must be notarized by county clerk?
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gbm75



Joined: 26 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: degree - must be notarized by county clerk? Reply with quote

I'm trying to sort out the steps of getting an apostille for my degree.

I thought you get a notarized copy from the registrar at your school and then send it to the secretary of state.

However, I talked to them (state department) and they said I would have to take it to the county clerk and have it notarized (after getting it notarized by the school) and then mail it to the state department for the apostille.

Does this seem right? How many different people need to notarize and authenticate this thing? Shocked

What the state department said coincides with the information from the US embassy, so I'd say that's authoritative.

However, I read the other thread on getting an apostille for your degree from Korea and it didn't seem like anyone had to take it to a county clerk. Does it vary from state to state? Is the county clerk a superfluous step?
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Sujini25



Joined: 19 Oct 2010
Location: America

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello

You have to have it notarized by the county clerk, the apostille will verify that signature, they won't do it if you don't have the notary.

I am in New York and when I just went there with the document, he said it wasn't ready and I had to go to the county clerk and have it notarized then I had it apostillized.
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Maryland, I had my degree notarized by a notary at the bank, then it has to be "county certified" by the county clerk. Then it can be apostilled by the state.

But here is the catch. Make sure that the notary and the county clerk are from the same county!!!! If the notary was certified in a different county, the clerk will not certify it! And if they do, and you bring it to the state, they might notice and not apostille it.

Hope this helps.
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gbm75



Joined: 26 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, those were both helpful answers!
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What?!? Why would you have to go to the country clerk?

The registrar at your school should be a public notary, or there should be one there to handle that stuff. You should get a copy, the notary should notarize it with a statement that says "this is a true copy of a diploma awarded to --- from --- university, presented to me on this date. SIGN"

You then take that to the Secretary of State's office who gives you the apostille.

I've had a dozen different things apostilled before, and every time, that's what was required. Police check was notarized by the state police notary, then apostilled at the SOS office. University registrar notarized it, apostilled at the state. Sure, it may vary from state to state, but I've never heard of anyone having to go to the county clerk.
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in the State of Maryland, the Secretary of State requires that it be county certified before they apostille it. Thats why you should get it certified. Duh! Smile

Each state is different. It sounds like he checked with his state's Secretary of State office. They asked him to get it county certified. So.....
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some states require both a notarization and a county certification before they apostille education documents. Its not really two notaries. The county certification is different.
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margaretmary



Joined: 08 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrwhite82 wrote:
Well in the State of Maryland, the Secretary of State requires that it be county certified before they apostille it. Thats why you should get it certified. Duh! Smile

Each state is different. It sounds like he checked with his state's Secretary of State office. They asked him to get it county certified. So.....


Yes, it does differ from state to state.

Some states require notarization (from a notary public), certification from the county clerk (sometimes called verification or authentication; this confirms that the notary is current and valid), and then apostillization (did I make that word up?) from the Secretary of State.

Other states just require notarization before going to the Secretary of State's office.

Everyone should contact their own state's Secretary of State office to find out their specific requirements.
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SandyG21



Joined: 26 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in a tiny town in the midwest - I have called every office in my county - NO ONE in the government notarizies documents - they acted like I am nuts for my request! I called office after office and they are clueless!
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, you need god's seal of approval. Razz
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gbm75



Joined: 26 May 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandyg21 have you tried just doing a google search for your state + apostille? That's what I did and it took me right to a site with all the details. Although I still had questions and had to call them anyway.
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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: