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wizo
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
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 Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: Am I a "native speaker" ? |
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I came to Canada when I was 4 and I'm currently 26.
I grew up speaking two languages but English is definitely my "main" language. I think and dream in English 
Would employers consider me a native speaker? Is the fact that I was simply born in another country a big deal? I'm mainly thinking about working in Korea or China.
I also look like a native speaker; I'm tall, white, green eyed, etc.
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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do you have a Canadian passport?
Did you go to an English university in one of the 7 E2 countries?
If so yes you will. |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| To be considered a native speaker in korea, your passport and university degree must come from one of the "Big 7" countries: British Isles, Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa. If you can't answer yes for both passport and degree, youre not a native English speaker in the eyes of korean immigration. |
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wizo
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| OculisOrbis wrote: |
| To be considered a native speaker in korea, your passport and university degree must come from one of the "Big 7" countries: British Isles, Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa. If you can't answer yes for both passport and degree, youre not a native English speaker in the eyes of korean immigration. |
I've been living in Canada for 22 years straight, my passport should be from here, right? I think I have dual-citizenship.
I haven't actually renewed or updated my passport yet.
Yes, I have a BA from a Canadian University. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| wizo wrote: |
| OculisOrbis wrote: |
| To be considered a native speaker in korea, your passport and university degree must come from one of the "Big 7" countries: British Isles, Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa. If you can't answer yes for both passport and degree, youre not a native English speaker in the eyes of korean immigration. |
I've been living in Canada for 22 years straight, my passport should be from here, right? |
Not necessarily.
You may be a permanent resident of Canada without holding Canadian citizenship (PR-card).
IF you are a citizen you will have either:
a) a Canadian birth certificate (born in Canada),
b) Canadian certificate of citizenship (born abroad to a Canadian parent or naturalized as a Canadian).
If you do NOT have (a) or (b) you are not Canadian (won't be able to get a Canadian passport) and will probably not be considered a "native speaker" in the eyes of Korean immigration.
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wizo
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Great! Thanks:)
Ya I'm a naturalized citizen I just need to apply for a passport. |
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Xylox
Joined: 09 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I was born in another country, came to Canada when I was 7.
I'm here in Korea as a native speaker, so I think you will be chill. |
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drcrazy
Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:40 am Post subject: |
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| wizo wrote: |
| OculisOrbis wrote: |
| To be considered a native speaker in korea, your passport and university degree must come from one of the "Big 7" countries: British Isles, Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa. If you can't answer yes for both passport and degree, youre not a native English speaker in the eyes of korean immigration. |
I've been living in Canada for 22 years straight, my passport should be from here, right? I think I have dual-citizenship.
I haven't actually renewed or updated my passport yet.
Yes, I have a BA from a Canadian University. |
This then |
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drcrazy
Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| wizo wrote: |
Great! Thanks:)
Ya I'm a naturalized citizen I just need to apply for a passport. |
this.
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wizo
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| drcrazy wrote: |
| wizo wrote: |
Great! Thanks:)
Ya I'm a naturalized citizen I just need to apply for a passport. |
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Ehh, I guess naturalized isn't the correct term in this case.
I have a citizenship certificate; I applied for it when I was 8 along with my dad. I have no memory of doing this but my parents have the proof/documents, lol.
I thought I had a passport but apparently it was from my birth country.
I still have to apply for a Canadian passport but I fulfill all the requirements so it shouldn't be a big deal. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| wizo wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| wizo wrote: |
Great! Thanks:)
Ya I'm a naturalized citizen I just need to apply for a passport. |
this.
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Ehh, I guess naturalized isn't the correct term in this case.
I have a citizenship certificate; I applied for it when I was 8 along with my dad. I have no memory of doing this but my parents have the proof/documents, lol.
I thought I had a passport but apparently it was from my birth country.
I still have to apply for a Canadian passport but I fulfill all the requirements so it shouldn't be a big deal. |
So when you get your Canadian passport along with your Canadian degree you will be considered a "native speaker" by Korean immigration.
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wizo
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| wizo wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| wizo wrote: |
Great! Thanks:)
Ya I'm a naturalized citizen I just need to apply for a passport. |
this.
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Ehh, I guess naturalized isn't the correct term in this case.
I have a citizenship certificate; I applied for it when I was 8 along with my dad. I have no memory of doing this but my parents have the proof/documents, lol.
I thought I had a passport but apparently it was from my birth country.
I still have to apply for a Canadian passport but I fulfill all the requirements so it shouldn't be a big deal. |
So when you get your Canadian passport along with your Canadian degree you will be considered a "native speaker" by Korean immigration.
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I have a Canadian degree. Passport is on its way.
Will I be considered a native speaker by Korean teaching employers? This was my original question.
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| wizo wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| wizo wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
| wizo wrote: |
Great! Thanks:)
Ya I'm a naturalized citizen I just need to apply for a passport. |
this.
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Ehh, I guess naturalized isn't the correct term in this case.
I have a citizenship certificate; I applied for it when I was 8 along with my dad. I have no memory of doing this but my parents have the proof/documents, lol.
I thought I had a passport but apparently it was from my birth country.
I still have to apply for a Canadian passport but I fulfill all the requirements so it shouldn't be a big deal. |
So when you get your Canadian passport along with your Canadian degree you will be considered a "native speaker" by Korean immigration.
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I have a Canadian degree. Passport is on its way.
Will I be considered a native speaker by Korean teaching employers? This was my original question.
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As long as you don't put your place of birth on your cv then yes, if they find out you were born in another country then no, even if you left that country when you were 1 day old then they won't "consider" you a native speaker. Sure there are exceptions but ... |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Am I a "native speaker" ? |
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| wizo wrote: |
I also look like a native speaker; I'm tall, white, green eyed, etc.
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I get it, you only look like a native speaker but you're really not. |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Am I a "native speaker" ? |
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| wizo wrote: |
I also look like a native speaker; I'm tall, white, green eyed, etc.
Thanks! |
Of Norwegian? Finnish? Ukrainian? |
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