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scanning my degree in Photoshop. Temptation: BSC -> MSC ;
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dodgybarnet



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Location: Directly above the centre of the earth. On a kickboard.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:16 am    Post subject: scanning my degree in Photoshop. Temptation: BSC -> MSC ; Reply with quote

Hmmmm...

I just scanned my degree in preparation for printing off various copies for my trip to find work in SK, and my devious mind starts ticking. Twisted Evil

I��m a bit of a Photoshop Guru you see, and could easily change my hard earned BSc into a tasty, better paid MSc. (I did a 4 year degree anyhow).

My question is not one of ethics, but rather do employers ever check these things out? Is it really likely that they call up/contact your old Uni to see what grades you got? What would happen if I got caught?

What proportion of people working in SK are on dodgy certificates anyhow? I'm thinking it's fairly common.

I know it would be ��naughty�� to forge stuff, but this is Asia we��re talking about – not exactly the world��s bastion of anti-fakery, -corruption etc...

Whatcha think? Don't hate me for contemplating this, I doubt I'm the first to ponder the idea Laughing
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: scanning my degree in Photoshop. Temptation: BSC -> M Reply with quote

dodgybarnet wrote:

My question is not one of ethics, but rather do employers ever check these things out? Is it really likely that they call up/contact your old Uni to see what grades you got? What would happen if I got caught?


well when you go for your visa you may have some explaing to do as immigration likes to verify that your degree is real. I really do hope that you get job the deserve for delibertly misleading your potential boss when you find out that they have 'mislead' you.
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sid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Berkshire, England

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure that an M Sc (as opposed to an MA) would be that marketable anyway, depending on your subject.
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't your degree have a foil or embossed seal of some sort? Most do.

Also, most are printed on some form of parchment paper (you could buy this anyway).

I honestly don't think they call schools to verify degrees.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll need your degree and transcripts from your uni. You never know, they may check.
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah.. these days any school that would care about the MA/MSC over a BA/BS (like a university) also wants transcripts too. Some Korean consulates also want transcripts in the visa issuance process.
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dodgybarnet



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

> I really do hope that you get job the deserve for delibertly
> misleading your potential boss when you find out that they
> have 'mislead' you.

Easy tiger - just bouncing round some ideas, I haven't decided on whether to try it yet.

I bring up the idea also because my psychology degree is actually of Masters level, but an archaic rule got me a Bachelors which I'm still a bit bitter about:

I got my degree from Edinburgh Uni, where if you studied psychology and were from the Arts Faculty you got an MA, whilst if you were from the Science Faculty you get a BSc. So half my colleagues got MAs whilst I got a BSc despite the fact we did exactly the same course. Bummer. (It��s an old archaic rule: women aren��t allowed to get a Masters of Science without having received a Bachelors first, hence the discrepancy. Gotta love tradition).

A nice bit of general knowledge for you.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not throwing stones either but.... changing one's degree to reflect a MA or....
I suppose the one's who actually did earn a MA are not to pleased!
ethics question? Morals? Upbringing?
In Canada or the U.S., yeah, you'd be caught and branded for life most likely.
But hey, everyone does it right!
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try scanning your transcript sometime.

If it is like my transcript it has special "markers" that say COPY when photocopied or scanned.

Immigration DOES check the documents.

No transcript, no dice.
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Sojuman99



Joined: 30 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodgybarnet wrote:
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I got my degree from Edinburgh Uni, bla, bla, bla.


I would worry about your accent being accepted more than your degree.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodgybarnet wrote:


Easy tiger - just bouncing round some ideas, I haven't decided on whether to try it yet.

I bring up the idea also because my psychology degree is actually of Masters level, but an archaic rule got me a Bachelors which I'm still a bit bitter about:

I got my degree from Edinburgh Uni, where if you studied psychology and were from the Arts Faculty you got an MA, whilst if you were from the Science Faculty you get a BSc. So half my colleagues got MAs whilst I got a BSc despite the fact we did exactly the same course. Bummer. (It��s an old archaic rule: women aren��t allowed to get a Masters of Science without having received a Bachelors first, hence the discrepancy. Gotta love tradition).

A nice bit of general knowledge for you.