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Murakano
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: Russia and Qatar to host World Cup 2018/2022 |
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Viva the petro-dollars |
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SarcasticGuy
Joined: 30 Nov 2010
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Pathetic.
A 100 degree desert the size of Connecticut where I can't drink beer, and Larissa Riquelme will probably have to cover up. Boy, can't wait! |
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Kurtz
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Location: ples bilong me
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Air conditioned stadiums did it for the Arabs.
Let's see how the Russians cope with the WC, could be interesting. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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I was hoping the USA could host it to get into the international football culture. Would also be excellent in promoting some life and excitement into our stagnated economy. Qatar doesn't need the money, it's so rich with oil. Qatar is exotic and FIFA wants to get the Islam world involved since soccer is the international sport. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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SarcasticGuy wrote: |
Pathetic.
A 100 degree desert the size of Connecticut where I can't drink beer, and Larissa Riquelme will probably have to cover up. Boy, can't wait! |
To host a world cup FIFA requires countries make special conditions and allowing the sale of alcohol is one of them. These countries know what is required of them to host these events. So for 1 month in 2022 Qatar will change into on of the most social liberal places on earth. I think it's pretty cool that Qatar gets to host a big event like the WC.
However, Russia needs to do something about their rampant violent racism towards non-whites. There will be tons of non-Christan, non-white fans wondering all around. Either social attitudes have to change, or they'll have to place police and soldiers all over the place to prevent mobs beating on some poor African fan. But 8 years is a lot of time, considering that during communist times Russian universities actively encouraged bright African students to study in Russia and all of them made it out alive. But that was over 20 years ago though. |
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Murakano
Joined: 10 Sep 2009
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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I don't begrudge a populous country with a tradition of football, but I do take offence at them basically giving it to a bunch of oil-rich playboys who fancy having it in their back garden to stroke their egos.
I don't even know where Qatar are in the FIFA world rankings...top 100? |
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notinKS
Joined: 11 Jul 2010
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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I think I read they were at #89. They decided that since their team couldn't make the World Cup, they would try to host it instead.
I do think it's admirable that they will dismantle some of the stadiums and donate them to Third World countries. |
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Murakano
Joined: 10 Sep 2009
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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but despite concerns regarding the blistering heat it was Qatar who convinced the Fifa voters. "We know it would be a bold gamble and an exciting prospect but with no risk," the bid chief executive, Hassan Al-Thawadi, said. "Heat is not and will not be an issue."
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A bold gamble with no risk?
So anyways, Qatar will change a bunch of their laws for the duration of the world cup, so i imagine the business with alcohol, women, the press, human rights and so on will be relaxed. but i think if a country HAS to do that for a world cup then it's basically a sign they shouldn't really be considered in the first place. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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A free win for whatever country gets to play Russia or Qatar in the World Cup. |
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Murakano
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
A free win for whatever country gets to play Russia or Qatar in the World Cup. |
Russia are a pretty decent country at football.....Qatar? Maybe they'll naturalise more Brazilians and Uruguayans as they currently they do.
Btw, FIFA world ranking = 113 |
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conrad2
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Vast empty stadiums in Qatar. Air conditioned stadiums. Wow, What about the other 22 hours a day you arent at the game? |
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chellovek

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Murakano wrote: |
pkang0202 wrote: |
A free win for whatever country gets to play Russia or Qatar in the World Cup. |
Russia are a pretty decent country at football..... |
Quite so, they were one of the better teams in Europe during Soviet times. |
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thomas pars
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I called it. I knew it would go to Russia on the grounds that FIFA had openly
stated how they hate joint bids. Bye bye spain/portugal, Netherlands/Belgium. So you had England and Russia. Russia's never hosted it before. And FIFA is making it their grand mission to bring football to all corners of the Earth.
The second decision is shit though. Japan and Korea never had a chance.
And you had USA, Australia, and Qatar. Could have gone any way with
those. It should have been Australia. They never hosted it. But FIFA again is all about bringing football to all corners...
But like has been said. A world cup party in one of the strictest places in the world. If FIFA was so desperate to bring the WC to the middle east then they should have waited till a decent middle eastern country made a bid....ie. Turkey, Morocco, Lebanon, the UAE, hell even Israel would have been a better pick. Qatar is really boring. It's basically like Vegas without
the booze. They're not even into football that much. Lousy decision. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Murakano wrote: |
So anyways, Qatar will change a bunch of their laws for the duration of the world cup, so i imagine the business with alcohol, women, the press, human rights and so on will be relaxed. but i think if a country HAS to do that for a world cup then it's basically a sign they shouldn't really be considered in the first place. |
It's not only Qatar...
http://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/FIFA-to-be-exempt-from-taxes-20100416
http://2010-world-cup.co.cc/soccer-buzz-does-fifa-ask-for-too-much-legal-power-in-world-cup
Brazil is giving a FIFA a tax break (no taxes at all) and changed their laws to accommodate FIFA. Russia is going to lift visa requirements for visitors during the world cup. Who knows what else past hosts had to do to meet FIFA's demands? |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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I support the decision. Even if a country f's it up royally, they need to be given a chance. I prefer that to repeat hosts. I personally don't mind joint bids, ut FIFA has their reasons.
SA ruined their chances of ever hosting again after their buvuzlla crap. |
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