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deizio
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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 Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:01 pm Post subject: Good P/T jobs for former E2s now D2s (student)? |
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Any former E2s (or taught elsewhere) on D2 visas had luck finding decent part time teaching jobs? Practically every posting that looks right up my street is after F-visas, but judging by the number of posts and reposts (I might be naive here) I just can't imagine they have all have an amazing selection of well-qualified applicants, especially if they don't want gyopos. I understand they want minimal visa hassle but from what I can see (again, call me naive) processing work permission for D2s isn't outrageous for part-time work.
I'm not desperate to teach or for extra money but I see 40k+ business teaching gigs for an hour or two in the evenings in central Seoul that would be worth staying up for. Fwiw my teaching resume is cash money, esp. for business / adult classes.
Anyone recommend any agencies or schools worth contacting? |
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Netz
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"
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Are you actually asking for advice on how to break the law, or which agencies will assist you in doing so?
Besides the obvious fact of illegality, working for 40k an hour is your second mistake.
It's people working illegally for crap money that make it impossible for the people on F visas that are married to earn a reasonable wage at these types of jobs. It just lowers the bar even further than the uneducated (no degree) F4s already have.
If you do go ahead and succeed in landing something, I wouldn't be telling people about it. Someone will report you to immigration, and there goes your big money 40k an hour job along with a large fine and/or deportation. |
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deizio
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:11 am Post subject: |
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D2 holders can work for up to 20 hours per week during term time, and unlimited hours during vacations. Gaining permission involves taking your offer of employment, permission from your school and the other relevant docs to immigration. I have never worked illegally in my 5+ years in Korea, and have no intention of doing so. Glad I could set you straight on both elements of that one.
As to your comment about "crap money", 40k is a typical salary quoted by most of the jobs I described, and is roughly on a par with the 4m+ job I had before starting my MBA when you break down the hours. Even if that's crap money for you, i would venture that it isn't for most people. I don't consider it sensational, but being a student I would certainly take it under the right circumstances. I honestly don't know how things are for F visa holders
So.. I refer everyone to my original post. |
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Murakano
Joined: 10 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| Netz wrote: |
Are you actually asking for advice on how to break the law, or which agencies will assist you in doing so? I have never worked illegally in my 5+ years in Korea, and have no intention of doing so. Glad I could set you straight on both elements of that one.
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It is NOT illegal to work on a D-2 visa. Infact it is one of those visas bizarrely where you can tutor legally "with permission from your professor" as well.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/02/117_60240.html
I have seen several postings lately asking for F2/F4/D2 visa types only for company work. |
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deizio
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| Murakano wrote: |
| I have seen several postings lately asking for F2/F4/D2 visa types only for company work. |
Any chance you could give a couple examples? I've seen *very* few that stipulate D2 as an option.
It also seems there are two flavours of D2 work - teaching / tutoring within your uni, which seems not to need immigration-level permission, and outside work which does. The newspaper article linked above hints that privates might fall closer to the former than the latter even if they are off-campus, but its freakin' impossible to get answers about this from immi.
So to expand my original point, I would love to hear from any D2s who have been through the process of getting work permission.. there's a lot of ambiguity over whether you need to have completed fully 6 months at school, or one semester. I suspect the 6 months can finessed if you're through a semester, have a nice letter from your advising professor (especially from a top school, check) but prob depends on the immigration officer you get. Document regulations are also clear as mud. I do have all my docs here but nothing apostilled and no recent background check (my last E2 job started in '07 before the new checks and I just needed a basic police check from the UK and a stamp on it from the embassy to renew in '08), not sure how much of the E2-style regulations I would have to adhere to to get work clearance.
Btw, just to assuage any fears that I'm trying to take jobs off "qualified" applicants, I'm an MBA candidate (full-time), have a BA, a CELTA, and 8 years ESL experience in 3 countries including college (credit classes) and on and off-site company teaching, plus non-ESL experience in business and journalism. Put another way, I'm a teacher studying to facilitiate a career change, not an undergrad trying to earn a few bucks.
Any (relevant, constructive, experiential) input greatly appreciated! |
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Milkman Dan
Joined: 10 Jan 2009
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| I'd also be interested in learning more about this as well. Specifically, are the working regulations the same for both D-2 and D-4 visa holders? |
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