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thomas pars



Joined: 29 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: FTA between Korea and US passes. Reply with quote

I wonder if I can by oatmeal for under 12 dollars now.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silly American, the only purpose of the FTA is to allow Hyundai and Kia to sell their cars even cheaper in the U.S.! Why would this affect the price you pay for oatmeal in Korea? Koreans don't eat oatmeal.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This FTA affects very few products.
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Koreadays



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This benefits USA more than Korea..
its really to help USA because they are in serious need of money.
I guess President LEE is throwing out a bone.
funny how the deal got signed right after the Norths attack LOL
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreadays wrote:
This benefits USA more than Korea..
its really to help USA because they are in serious need of money.
I guess President LEE is throwing out a bone.
funny how the deal got signed right after the Norths attack LOL


this

America aint going to do no dealing without it coming on top.
Selling cheap Hyundaes and cheap Samsung phones is the way to get on top.

and then flood Korea with US brands.

thats the game, aint it?
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Provence



Joined: 18 Oct 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

happiness wrote:
Koreadays wrote:
This benefits USA more than Korea..
its really to help USA because they are in serious need of money.
I guess President LEE is throwing out a bone.
funny how the deal got signed right after the Norths attack LOL


this

America aint going to do no dealing without it coming on top.
Selling cheap Hyundaes and cheap Samsung phones is the way to get on top.

and then flood Korea with US brands.

thats the game, aint it?


To be fair, as it stands now the US only has a tariff of 2.5% on Korean goods while Korea has a 8.5% tariff on US goods. And even with the elimination of those tariffs the US is still expected to have a trade deficit of $7 billion a year with Korea.

The US still isn�t "coming on top" with this deal.

Edit: Also the U.S. only exported 5,878 automobiles to South Korea last year, while South Korean auto shipments to the U.S. totaled 476,833. Those numbers are unlikely to change much even with the FTA.


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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The deal hasn't passed yet because the legislatures of both countries must still ratify it, and that could be the real battle.
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thomas pars



Joined: 29 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like it will have an immediate effect on food...not just automobiles.

http://www.fas.usda.gov/info/factsheets/korea.asp

My favorite part.

"Under KORUS, nearly all tariffs for U.S. agricultural products will be eliminated. About $2.8 billion, or 62 percent, of Korea�s imports from the United States will be immediately duty free. Virtually all other tariffs will be reduced in equal annual increments over a phaseout period, with the first tariff cut made upon entry-into-force of the agreement."

Looks like food might get cheaper....that is if they approve it.
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Catfisher



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomas pars wrote:
It looks like it will have an immediate effect on food...not just automobiles.

http://www.fas.usda.gov/info/factsheets/korea.asp

My favorite part.

"Under KORUS, nearly all tariffs for U.S. agricultural products will be eliminated. About $2.8 billion, or 62 percent, of Korea�s imports from the United States will be immediately duty free. Virtually all other tariffs will be reduced in equal annual increments over a phaseout period, with the first tariff cut made upon entry-into-force of the agreement."

Looks like food might get cheaper....that is if they approve it.


Does that mean that the market will be flooded with an alternative to their precious glutinous sticky rice that is the most delicious and nutritious in all the world?
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Flooding the market? Please!

First off, Korean companies control all distribution in Korea. You think Emart, Homeplus, or Department Store grocery areas are going to just kick Korean goods to the curb to make room for cheap American products?

Why do you think 99% of all "foreign products" in Korea have a Korean company attached to it? Its because its damn near impossible to get a product on a Korean grocery shelf without working with a Korean company. If Hidden Valley decides they want to bring Ranch Dressing to Korea, they are gonna have cargo containers of Ranch dressing sitting in Incheon Port because no Korean retailer is going to sell their product unless it goes through a Korean distribution company. That distribution company is going to charge an arm and a leg to put that product in grocery stores.

Foreign good prices will stay high. The only difference after the FTA is that distributors will have a higher margin to make their profits.
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waynehead



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm certainly no expert, and I don't expect my local homeplus to start looking like a walmart anytime soon. That said, it seems reasonable to expect some rise in availability of American goods if the FTA goes through. Granted, we'll still be subject to the whims of the Korean consumer, but the American things Koreans like should be cheaper and more plentiful...at least a little bit so. Seems like good news to me.

Of course, as someone else mentioned, this all depends on both legislatures approving it. Given what I know about each, I would put the odds of approval very low in the near term.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catfisher wrote:


Does that mean that the market will be flooded with an alternative to their precious glutinous sticky rice that is the most delicious and nutritious in all the world?


You can get rice other than sticky rice here. They eat it at just about all meals. Sticky rice is only eaten occasionally (samgyetang).
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Vagabundo



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 2.5% tariff on Korean cars means NOTHING.

due to the innate crappiness of the Korean won (and the govt's efforts to suppress it), it's 15% plus worse against USD (and far far worse against everyone else) since 2008.

do you think the 2.5% means anything when the Koreans are starting out 15% in front? why are the Korean carmakers so happy?

(what's interesting is that at least 1 US automaker, Ford, is happy too)

and of course, they'll manipulate the exchange rate lower if and when it further suits them.
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ReeseDog



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreadays wrote:

Funny how the deal got signed right after the Norths attack.

This.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
I don't know what you guys are talking about. Flooding the market? Please!

First off, Korean companies control all distribution in Korea. You think Emart, Homeplus, or Department Store grocery areas are going to just kick Korean goods to the curb to make room for cheap American products?

Why do you think 99% of all "foreign products" in Korea have a Korean company attached to it? Its because its damn near impossible to get a product on a Korean grocery shelf without working with a Korean company. If Hidden Valley decides they want to bring Ranch Dressing to Korea, they are gonna have cargo containers of Ranch dressing sitting in Incheon Port because no Korean retailer is going to sell their product unless it goes through a Korean distribution company. That distribution company is going to charge an arm and a leg to put that product in grocery stores.

Foreign good prices will stay high. The only difference after the FTA is that distributors will have a higher margin to make their profits.

For sure, foreign companies have little success cracking the Korean mark. Nokia, WalMart and Carrefour have tucked tail and left. Google is trying, but with little success. The only few foreign business that have seen some success are some of the high-end European and Japanese cars and brands, Apple, Costco and Motorola. In most cases they'll need to work with Korean companies and distributors to bring their products in.
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