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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:51 am Post subject: |
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[email protected] wrote: |
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Thanks. I really needed that.
That's the first and second time I've ever heard that any of the Koreans wanted us to learn Korean. |
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What a ridiculous statement. There are plenty of Koreans who want us to learn Korean.
Honestly...where do you live that nobody will speak Korean with you? In my town there is nobody that speaks English outside of the university. |
Fergusonians and the "Can I help you?" speech in 3,2,1...... |
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Catfisher
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:16 am Post subject: |
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morrisonhotel wrote: |
[email protected] wrote: |
tomato wrote: |
Thanks. I really needed that.
That's the first and second time I've ever heard that any of the Koreans wanted us to learn Korean. |
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What a ridiculous statement. There are plenty of Koreans who want us to learn Korean.
Honestly...where do you live that nobody will speak Korean with you? In my town there is nobody that speaks English outside of the university. |
Fergusonians and the "Can I help you?" speech in 3,2,1...... |
For real, man. That schtick is getting old. The guy speaks crap Korean, doesn't practice, and then bitches about Koreans not speaking Korean to him because he speaks Korean like shite and they can't understand it. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:20 am Post subject: |
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[email protected] wrote: |
Honestly...where do you live that nobody will speak Korean with you? In my town there is nobody that speaks English outside of the university. |
화순. It's a short bus trip fromm 광주.
I've lived in at least ten different cities,
and everywhere I lived, I had to try at least three different drugstores before I could find one where no one would explain to me in English that I'm supposed to take the medicine three times a day after meals.
No one outside the university in your town speaks English?
Where IS this wonderful place!
I'd like to spend my vacations there!
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The guy speaks crap Korean, |
Can you back that up?
Can you back that up?
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they can't understand it. |
Can you back that up? |
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[email protected]
Joined: 28 Nov 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:29 am Post subject: |
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tomato wrote: |
No one outside the university in your town speaks English?
Where IS this wonderful place!
I'd like to spend my vacations there! |
Clearly there are some people in town who speak English...I just mean on a daily basis I never have anyone communicate with me in any language but Korean (unless it's a student, of course)....I highly doubt that you'd want to vacation here. There are few places in Korea worth vacationing in, and this is certainly not one of those rare locales.
Plus....pharmacists here do seem to speak a strange, warped version of English, so you might end up having your vacation ruined if you were to come down with some sort of illness and be forced to visit the drug store....you would be THRILLED at your visit to the local hospital, however. They don't speak a word of English there.....in fact, they speak so little English that they generally try to shoo you away in lieu of giving you medical treatment! |
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Catfisher
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:30 am Post subject: |
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tomato wrote: |
[email protected] wrote: |
Honestly...where do you live that nobody will speak Korean with you? In my town there is nobody that speaks English outside of the university. |
화순. It's a short bus trip fromm 광주.
I've lived in at least ten different cities,
and everywhere I lived, I had to try at least three different drugstores before I could find one where no one would explain to me in English that I'm supposed to take the medicine three times a day after meals.
No one outside the university in your town speaks English?
Where IS this wonderful place!
I'd like to spend my vacations there!
Catfisher wrote: |
The guy speaks crap Korean, |
Can you back that up?
Can you back that up?
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they can't understand it. |
Can you back that up? |
Anyone can back it up by reading your pathetic lame assed posts. Maybe if you get your fat ass up out of the computer chair and go get some exercise, maybe you could find some nice little Korean honey (that you don't have to pay for) and practice speaking to your heart's content with her. No, whining on the internet is easier, just stick to that. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:20 am Post subject: |
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It was a weekend in October. A small town in Korea was holding its annual harvest festival, and Tomato was getting off the bus, looking very forward to two days of cultural enrichment.
Then he saw a bus parked on the street, with painted letters reading MIRIAM FERGUSON SOCIETY. "Uh-oh."
Tomato walked the few blocks to the festival and decided to make a small purchase. He took an item from the display rack and carried it to the counter. "얼마입니까?� he stammered, in the best Korean he could muster.
The woman behind the counter laughed nervously.
A hand grabbed Tomato by the arm. "캔 아이 헬프 유?�
Tomato looked the other way, only to see another one. "잉글리시 티처?�
Before he knew it, he was surrounded. Questions were coming from all sides. �두 유 해브 어 하비?� �화트 이즈 유르 네임?� "두 유 라이크 김치?�
Just as Tomato started to run for cover, an apparition distracted everyone at the festival. A cloud in the sky was slowly descending to the fairground. The awe-stricken crowd silently watched as the cloud reached the ground. They continued to watch as the mist cleared. Could it be--no, it couldn't be--yes, it is! None other than Catfisher himself, surrounded with an aura of light and clad in a long white robe!
Pandemonium instantly broke out. School superintendents and English school directors rushed to the scene, armed with a work contract in one hand and a pen in the other. Women came running from all directions, shouting promises of matrimonial bliss. Children tried to outrun each other, all wanting to be the first to play 보리 보리 쌀. Friendly rivalries escalated into harsh words. Harsh words escalated into shouting matches. Shouting matches escalated into fist fights. Police arrived on the scene. They were just in time, because the women were just about to rip off his long white robe and admire the beautiful body underneath.
Meanwhile, Tomato was left stranded, all alone and completely forgotten. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Have you ever considered that wasting time by writing things like the above is the reason why you aren't fluent? If you've got enough time to waste creating dross like that then it's clear you aren't particularly committed to learning. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: In my Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:10 am Post subject: Re: Why (how) you should start learning Korean today |
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I don't need this language because I'm moving home.
Then never complain about people in your country who can't speak your language.
The worst excuse is the last one. Unfortunately, it's the main excuse. What usually happens is that you DON'T move home ... well, at least not for 2-3-4 more years. It's always "I'll learn it later" or "It's too late to start now" or "Who needs it" or "I'm not Korean" or "Why bother?" Then, one day, you see a 35 year old ESL teacher that's been in Korea for 10 years that isn't fluent. That's a major head shaking moment - what a waste.
Just start now and don't be that person. |
You've been teaching English for ten years and you haven't gotten a MATESOL or DELTA? Don't be that person!
One person learns Korean and chats with ajumma while another spends free time getting a Master's degree in English language teaching. Which one made a better or worse use of their free time?
To each their own. Get off your judgemental high horse and get a life. Why do you care whether others learn KOrean or not? Only hypernationalistic proud Koreans have a reason why they should care at all what a waygook teacher does or doesn't do in their free time regarding upgrading language skills beyond the minimal level needed to function here.
The day after I finish a work contract I must leave the country. I am a migrant worker here. I never expect a migrant worker back home to speak the local language. Now, give out citizenship or landed immigrant status or hell, even residency untied to a specific job and I'll stop acting like I have one foot out of the door. In the meantime, I appreciate my time here and make the most of it. Now my 10 minutes online is up and I've better things to do (no, not learning Korean grammar). G'day. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:53 am Post subject: |
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A person is not allowed to spend time on more than one interest?
There have been outstanding musicians who had other interests.
German composer Richard Wagner was a voluminous writer on philosophy.
Italian composer Giuseppe Verdi ran an apple orchard.
Italian composer Giacomo Puccini enjoyed hunting in the forest.
Composer Albert Roussel was an officer in the French navy.
American composer Charles Ives was an insurance salesman.
German conductor Otto Klemperer earned a degree in physics before making a career switch.
Conversely, persons who were outstanding in other fields have been expert musicians.
Benjamin Franklin was a composer.
So was Charlie Chaplin.
Fred Rogers, of MisteRogers' Neighborhood, had a degree in music composition and used his own music on his show.
French philosopher and writer Jean-Jacques Rousseau was a composer. The song "Go Tell Aunt Rhody� is based on an aria from one of his operas.
US President Thomas Jefferson played the violin.
US President Harry Truman played the piano.
US President Bill Clinton played the saxophone.
Albert Einstein was an excellent violinist.
Comedian Jack Benny also was an excellent violinist.
American poet James Whitcomb Riley owned a violin and was able to play every instrument in the orchestra.
Albert Schweitzer excelled both as a missionary doctor and as a scholar on the music of Johann Sebastian Bach.
Woody Allen is a jazz clarinettist, and a very good one.
In light of the foregoing, I think it is good for a foreign teacher to study Korean, but a foreign teacher should not be expected to devote every leisure minute to studying Korean.
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:09 am Post subject: |
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tomato wrote: |
Tomato walked the few blocks to the festival and decided to make a small purchase. He took an item from the display rack and carried it to the counter. "얼마입니까?� he stammered, in the best Korean he could muster.
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아저씨, 이것 얼마죠?
then again, by the time you're at the counter with an item, you're going to buy it anyways and there's no real need to ask for the price at that point, is there? Why not ask where the festival is? What the weather's expected to be like for the rest of the day? What are the local attractions? By asking a question that they'd never be able to answer in English, it'll put them in a position to answer in Korean. Assault them, man! Korean them 'till they beg you to stop (in Korean!~) !
The point is, this, like most of these sorts of posts of yours seem to show a little awkwardness in your Korean social skills. Tip: at your age (I seem to remember you being older), there is very little practical use for 입니까/다. Honestly, just lose it when you're talking (especially since you're speaking English at work).
You may be a little too straight-laced for this, but I got quite a bit of practice at Da-Bangs. Not the really shady ones (oh, they're out there!) - but the ones with older women who just serve coffee. They're usually not too busy and bored enough to chat. They have a lot of interesting things to say and are generally quite friendly and patient (you are paying for coffee after all...) Try one out! |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:49 am Post subject: |
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tomato wrote: |
A person is not allowed to spend time on more than one interest?
There have been outstanding musicians who had other interests.
German composer Richard Wagner was a voluminous writer on philosophy.
Italian composer Giuseppe Verdi ran an apple orchard.
Italian composer Giacomo Puccini enjoyed hunting in the forest.
Composer Albert Roussel was an officer in the French navy.
American composer Charles Ives was an insurance salesman.
German conductor Otto Klemperer earned a degree in physics before making a career switch.
Conversely, persons who were outstanding in other fields have been expert musicians.
Benjamin Franklin was a composer.
So was Charlie Chaplin.
Fred Rogers, of MisteRogers' Neighborhood, had a degree in music composition and used his own music on his show.
French philosopher and writer Jean-Jacques Rousseau was a composer. The song "Go Tell Aunt Rhody� is based on an aria from one of his operas.
US President Thomas Jefferson played the violin.
US President Harry Truman played the piano.
US President Bill Clinton played the saxophone.
Albert Einstein was an excellent violinist.
Comedian Jack Benny also was an excellent violinist.
American poet James Whitcomb Riley owned a violin and was able to play every instrument in the orchestra.
Albert Schweitzer excelled both as a missionary doctor and as a scholar on the music of Johann Sebastian Bach.
Woody Allen is a jazz clarinettist, and a very good one.
In light of the foregoing, I think it is good for a foreign teacher to study Korean, but a foreign teacher should not be expected to devote every leisure minute to studying Korean. |
Do you think any of those people became accomplished at their main interest (or other interests) from writing, with respect, poorly written stories on an internet forum about how people are conspiring to stop them reaching their goal? |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Maybe not, but at least one of them engaged in pastimes which were just as frivolous.
Puccini had a friend who was an art student.
His friend made a life-sized three-dimensional image of himself, attached a suicide note, and hung it from a rope in a local widow's attic.
Then the friend waited inside Puccini's house for several days.
He came outside only after the widow ventured up into the attic, saw the image, and went hysterical.
Also, at least one of them engaged in pasttimes which were just as hostile.
Wagner wrote extensively on reasons why we should all hate the Jews. |
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Catfisher
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Yeah. I think we all understand at this point why tomato can't speak Korean. He/She spends too much time on this forum in a feeble attempt to impress us with his/her intellect.
**yawn**
Move on with it, you beet faced slovenly Englishman. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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You've been teaching English for ten years and you haven't gotten a MATESOL or DELTA? Don't be that person!
One person learns Korean and chats with ajumma while another spends free time getting a Master's degree in English language teaching. Which one made a better or worse use of their free time?
To each their own. Get off your judgemental high horse and get a life. Why do you care whether others learn KOrean or not? Only hypernationalistic proud Koreans have a reason why they should care at all what a waygook teacher does or doesn't do in their free time regarding upgrading language skills beyond the minimal level needed to function here.
The day after I finish a work contract I must leave the country. I am a migrant worker here. I never expect a migrant worker back home to speak the local language. Now, give out citizenship or landed immigrant status or hell, even residency untied to a specific job and I'll stop acting like I have one foot out of the door. In the meantime, I appreciate my time here and make the most of it. Now my 10 minutes online is up and I've better things to do (no, not learning Korean grammar). G'day. |
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Move on with it, you beet faced slovenly Englishman. |
What makes you think he's English? Apart from the red face? |
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Catfisher
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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edwardcatflap wrote: |
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You've been teaching English for ten years and you haven't gotten a MATESOL or DELTA? Don't be that person!
One person learns Korean and chats with ajumma while another spends free time getting a Master's degree in English language teaching. Which one made a better or worse use of their free time?
To each their own. Get off your judgemental high horse and get a life. Why do you care whether others learn KOrean or not? Only hypernationalistic proud Koreans have a reason why they should care at all what a waygook teacher does or doesn't do in their free time regarding upgrading language skills beyond the minimal level needed to function here.
The day after I finish a work contract I must leave the country. I am a migrant worker here. I never expect a migrant worker back home to speak the local language. Now, give out citizenship or landed immigrant status or hell, even residency untied to a specific job and I'll stop acting like I have one foot out of the door. In the meantime, I appreciate my time here and make the most of it. Now my 10 minutes online is up and I've better things to do (no, not learning Korean grammar). G'day. |
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Move on with it, you beet faced slovenly Englishman. |
What makes you think he's English? Apart from the red face? |
Because he's pompous like you, you old queen. |
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