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Korea's Extra-territorial laws

 
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:33 pm    Post subject: Korea's Extra-territorial laws Reply with quote

Rapper Crown-J is "charged with using marijuana outside the country."

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2929286

Shin Hye-sung, a member of the band Shinhwa, had to pay 10 million won in fines after he was caught gambling overseas

Entertainer Shin Jung-hwan, who gambled in the Philippines is being investigated by prosecutors, and will likely face "heavy punishment."

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2926077

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Seems strange to me. What about the dual passport holder that gambles legally in the U.S.? Was he an American at the time or Korean?

Anyway, this idea of whole world jurisdiction bothers me.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many countries have these laws. If you are Canadian and go abroad for sex tourism, you can be charged back in Canada.

I agree though: where the hell do countries get off charging you for something you did in another jurisdiction? Each day Government tries to take a little more of our liberties.

It should be up to the country where said criminal convicts the crime to punish them, not Canada. Also, in most countries, the punishment is WAY worse than what we do in Canada, so why does Canada bother wasting tax payer money on such stupid things? (Or Korea for that matter?)
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UknowsI



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can gambling abroad be illegal when gambling in Kangwon is legal? If it was illegal for Koreans to gamble anywhere in the world, it would almost make sense, but "anywhere in the world except Kangwon"...

There are a few 'world laws' which I think is sensible, such as those to prevent child abuse.

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He was also sued by an acquaintance who said Shin failed to repay the 180 million won he borrowed to gamble at a casino in Gangwon Province.

My home country has a law that makes it illegal to lend out money for gambling. I think it's a great law because it makes it much harder for people to build up gambling debt, and in this case it would be the suer's fault for lending Shin the money and he wouldn't have a case. The law does however make some practical problems. For example I can't pay for a dinner at a Las Vegas casino with my Visa/MasterCard.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember this blowing up two years back when a Korean guy blogged about puffing up in Amsterdam. oh, and this also came up when that K-chick did some porn in Vancouver and got busted here.

I understand the reasoning, just disagree with it.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the fact they gambled that got them into trouble, it's the huge sums of money they used to gamble. The taxman wants to know where they got that money from.
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Who's Your Daddy?



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
his also came up when that K-chick did some porn in Vancouver and got busted here.


Porn too?

Wow, what bothers me is that it seems the Korean government sees Koreans as their "property" (not sure of a better word) wherever they live in the world. Like the U.S. doesn't have responsibility for Koreans in it's borders but rather the home government does.

It's like when they apologized for that campus shooting, when the shooter was an American citizen.

Do the Koreans have over-seas police?
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
It's like when they apologized for that campus shooting, when the shooter was an American citizen.

Actually, he wasn't an American citizen, just a permanent resident. He was still a Korean citizen, hence the apology.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:

Actually, he wasn't an American citizen, just a permanent resident. He was still a Korean citizen, hence the apology.


I don't think citizenship mattered in that apology. They apologized because he was Korean; you know that one is Korean (in regards to other Koreans) regardless of one's citizenship/residency etc.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:

Wow, what bothers me is that it seems the Korean government sees Koreans as their "property" (not sure of a better word) wherever they live in the world. Like the U.S. doesn't have responsibility for Koreans in it's borders but rather the home government does.


The ROK constitution is interesting in that it refers to (rights of) "citizens" whereas the US constitution refers just to "the people" or "person" etc.

See:

ROK Constitution, Articles 10-39: http://english.ccourt.go.kr/home/att_file/download/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_Korea.pdf

US Constitution, Bill of Rights: http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
I remember this blowing up two years back when a Korean guy blogged about puffing up in Amsterdam. oh, and this also came up when that K-chick did some porn in Vancouver and got busted here.


Almond Tease, she came back to Korea to teach English and one of her students recognized her from the internet, lol
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the eighties I'd heard that Swedes are held to their laws worldwide. I didn't realize Koreans were too.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Korea's Extra-terrestrial laws


Rule 1: You may not phone home.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
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Korea's Extra-terrestrial laws


Rule 1: You may not phone home.



Does no-one get it?

E.T PHONE HOME

E.T.= Extra terrestrial.

Its a joke.

For pity's sakes this forum is slow these days!!!!! Rolling Eyes
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interestedinhanguk wrote:
Who's Your Daddy? wrote:

Wow, what bothers me is that it seems the Korean government sees Koreans as their "property" (not sure of a better word) wherever they live in the world. Like the U.S. doesn't have responsibility for Koreans in it's borders but rather the home government does.


The ROK constitution is interesting in that it refers to (rights of) "citizens" whereas the US constitution refers just to "the people" or "person" etc.

See:

ROK Constitution, Articles 10-39: http://english.ccourt.go.kr/home/att_file/download/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_Korea.pdf

US Constitution, Bill of Rights: http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html


I know one poster who won't like you bringing that up...
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