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Three Simple Things That Would Improve Korea Immensely
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FDNY



Joined: 27 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Three Simple Things That Would Improve Korea Immensely Reply with quote

1/ Relegate horking and spitting to privacy of your own home.

2/ Drive with courtesy.

3/ Learn to dispose of litter properly.

I don't know if these things would improve Korea for everyone, but
I would be a much happier camper. It is strange that Japan controlled
this country for 35 years, but the Koreans never adopted the Japanese
zeal for litter disposal. Perhaps Korea keeps its' streets like a garbage
dump to snub the them. As for the driving, Koreans have just gotten
into a bad habit. It is lack of leadership on behalf of the police and gov't
that Koreans are so rude to each other. As for the spitting and horking.
Don't tell me it is "cultural" thing. It is illegal in Singapore.
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superNET



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Learn to dispose of litter properly.


I see Koreans do this all the time. This is a very clean country.

Quote:
Relegate horking and spitting to privacy of your own home.


Nothing wrong with spitting in public in your own country.

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2/ Drive with courtesy.


Which country has its people drive with courtesy? Last I looked, western countries had their problem drivers as well.

It never ceases to amaze me how visitors to Korea keep attacking their host country, yet demand that the Koreans accept them and their bad habits with open arms.
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decolyon



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superNET wrote:
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Learn to dispose of litter properly.


I see Koreans do this all the time. This is a very clean country.



Haha, you're kidding right? You're either blind or stoned or both.
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sulperman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Three Simple Things That Would Improve Korea Immensely Reply with quote

FDNY wrote:
1/ Relegate horking and spitting to privacy of your own home.

2/ Drive with courtesy.

3/ Learn to dispose of litter properly.

I don't know if these things would improve Korea for everyone, but
I would be a much happier camper. It is strange that Japan controlled
this country for 35 years, but the Koreans never adopted the Japanese
zeal for litter disposal. Perhaps Korea keeps its' streets like a garbage
dump to snub the them. As for the driving, Koreans have just gotten
into a bad habit. It is lack of leadership on behalf of the police and gov't
that Koreans are so rude to each other. As for the spitting and horking.
Don't tell me it is "cultural" thing. It is illegal in Singapore.


Is this supposed to be a parody of the most standard dave's complaint post ever? If so, well done, sort of.
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Quack Addict



Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Three Simple Things That Would Improve Korea Immensely Reply with quote

FDNY wrote:
1/ Relegate horking and spitting to privacy of your own home.

2/ Drive with courtesy.

3/ Learn to dispose of litter properly.

I don't know if these things would improve Korea for everyone, but
I would be a much happier camper. It is strange that Japan controlled
this country for 35 years, but the Koreans never adopted the Japanese
zeal for litter disposal. Perhaps Korea keeps its' streets like a garbage
dump to snub the them. As for the driving, Koreans have just gotten
into a bad habit. It is lack of leadership on behalf of the police and gov't
that Koreans are so rude to each other. As for the spitting and horking.
Don't tell me it is "cultural" thing. It is illegal in Singapore.


Agreed! This would definatley make life on the peninsula more enjoyable.
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tanklor1



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4. How about not asking stupid questions to people you've just met: How old are you? What are your hobbies? Are you listening to Korean music? (while listening to an MP3 player) etc.

5. And for the love of God: would people stop making a fuss over my expert chopstick skills as if a three year old was holding them for the first time.

Just a couple of things that irritate me.
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crisdean



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

decolyon wrote:
superNET wrote:
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Learn to dispose of litter properly.


I see Koreans do this all the time. This is a very clean country.



Haha, you're kidding right? You're either blind or stoned or both.


I guess it's all relative, Seoul a very clean place when compared to Kathmandu, Delhi, Bangkok, or Athens. I'd say it's on par with New York or Paris. But not as clean as any of the cities I've lived in in Canada. And definitely not as clean as Tokyo. But I can only compare it to these places that I been to, some of which I haven't been to in years, and memory can be a funny thing when it come to accuracy.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crisdean wrote:
decolyon wrote:
superNET wrote:
Quote:
Learn to dispose of litter properly.
I see Koreans do this all the time. This is a very clean country.
Haha, you're kidding right? You're either blind or stoned or both.
I guess it's all relative, Seoul a very clean place when compared to Kathmandu, Delhi, Bangkok, or Athens. I'd say it's on par with New York or Paris. But not as clean as any of the cities I've lived in in Canada. And definitely not as clean as Tokyo. But I can only compare it to these places that I been to, some of which I haven't been to in years, and memory can be a funny thing when it come to accuracy.
Korea is clean in my books. But nothing can top Singapore, that place is almost spotless.
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crisdean



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
4. How about not asking stupid questions to people you've just met: How old are you? What are your hobbies? Are you listening to Korean music? (while listening to an MP3 player) etc.

5. And for the love of God: would people stop making a fuss over my expert chopstick skills as if a three year old was holding them for the first time.

Just a couple of things that irritate me.


Got to agree with both of these.
Though the first of which is at least somewhat understandable since, at least with my experience, it's an individual that doesn't have strong English ability and they're really just pulling every English phrase they know out of their head. I keep telling my students the only way to improve their ability is to use it, so what kind of horrible hypocrite would I be to pick on these people for doing what I try to get my students to do? So while I find it annoying, at least it's someone who is making an effort to improve their speaking ability.

The second though often comes out as downright condescending, yes I can use chopsticks, it's no big deal. And I hate the follow-up question, "where did you learn?"
"Well... when I was 4 I got lost in Chinatown for 4 weeks; my very survival depended on learned to use chopsticks to eat, because none of the chinese restaurants had forks and owners would beat me if I used my hands." I love making up ridiculous stories like that.


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Konglishman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Three Simple Things That Would Improve Korea Immensely Reply with quote

FDNY wrote:
1/ Relegate horking and spitting to privacy of your own home.

2/ Drive with courtesy.

3/ Learn to dispose of litter properly.

I don't know if these things would improve Korea for everyone, but
I would be a much happier camper. It is strange that Japan controlled
this country for 35 years, but the Koreans never adopted the Japanese
zeal for litter disposal. Perhaps Korea keeps its' streets like a garbage
dump to snub the them. As for the driving, Koreans have just gotten
into a bad habit. It is lack of leadership on behalf of the police and gov't
that Koreans are so rude to each other. As for the spitting and horking.
Don't tell me it is "cultural" thing. It is illegal in Singapore.


Are you suggesting that two different Asian countries cannot have cultural differences? That is like saying there are no cultural differences within Europe. Rolling Eyes
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FDNY



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crisdean wrote:
decolyon wrote:
superNET wrote:
Quote:
Learn to dispose of litter properly.


I see Koreans do this all the time. This is a very clean country.



Haha, you're kidding right? You're either blind or stoned or both.


I guess it's all relative, Seoul a very clean place when compared to Kathmandu, Delhi, Bangkok, or Athens. I'd say it's on par with New York or Paris. But not as clean as any of the cities I've lived in in Canada. And definitely not as clean as Tokyo. But I can only compare it to these places that I been to, some of which I haven't been to in years, and memory can be a funny thing when it come to accuracy.


I've Been to Bangkok lots of times. I don't remeber it being dirty. But
I'm not usually looking at the roads. ke ke ke
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
crisdean wrote:
decolyon wrote:
superNET wrote:
Quote:
Learn to dispose of litter properly.
I see Koreans do this all the time. This is a very clean country.
Haha, you're kidding right? You're either blind or stoned or both.
I guess it's all relative, Seoul a very clean place when compared to Kathmandu, Delhi, Bangkok, or Athens. I'd say it's on par with New York or Paris. But not as clean as any of the cities I've lived in in Canada. And definitely not as clean as Tokyo. But I can only compare it to these places that I been to, some of which I haven't been to in years, and memory can be a funny thing when it come to accuracy.
Korea is clean in my books. But nothing can top Singapore, that place is almost spotless.


The fact that S'pore is almost spotless is a quality that makes it less attractive in my eyes.
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, Korea (well, Seoul, at least) is just about as clean as it needs to be.

What would make Korea great is if Koreans learned the importance of following through on promises and contractual obligations, not making empty promises, how to say no to requests that are not possible, and how to break bad news before the last possible moment.

What really makes Korea hard to deal with is when they promise you something that you really want/need or have bargained for and then at the last minute they say "Sorry, not possible. Please understand."

Too often, they just don't do what they say they are going to do.
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:
Nah, Korea (well, Seoul, at least) is just about as clean as it needs to be.

What would make Korea great is if Koreans learned the importance of following through on promises and contractual obligations, not making empty promises, how to say no to requests that are not possible, and how to break bad news before the last possible moment.

What really makes Korea hard to deal with is when they promise you something that you really want/need or have bargained for and then at the last minute they say "Sorry, not possible. Please understand."

Too often, they just don't do what they say they are going to do.


You hit it on the head.

Then again, Southern California people also love to throw empty promises and pledges around.
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sublunari



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Less tar and concrete, more parks. And, like, real parks, not the dirt fields lined with benches and ajumma tents. I don't want to see a single tree locked inside fifty slabs of wood, either. Please give me more grass. Please make this country greener and more livable.

Less consumerist rat-race, more art, culture, and free expression.

More foreigners. Ahhh how different would things be if 10% of the population was obviously not Korean. People here might eventually start to consider new ideas and think outside of themselves, rather than continue believing that the Korean way is the only way to get things done. A generalization, but still. This is probably the future of Korea but I wish it would move its ass; I'm so sick of being the only non-Korean around for 99% of the time I spend outside my apartment.
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