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[creeper1]

I am formally requesting that all discussion of legal issues and visa issues concerning "reformed" criminals be removed from discussion on this forum because 1) it is not germaine to the topic of career development 2) it is an extremely devisive issue and 3) there is there is and has been the potential for discussion of unethical, and immoral bypassing of treaties, laws and contracts.

It is a lot like opening the forum to how can I cheat on my tax returns.

Basically giving advice to people who have been convicted of crimes to go to China or wherever DOES NOT DO US ANY GOOD AS PROSPECTIVE JOB CANDIDATES IF WE EVER FEEL THE NEED TO GO THERE.

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO RUN OUR REPUTATION INTO THE GROUND?

As far as I am concerned all these requests for information should be ignored. Imagine a pedo on here using some cover story about how he is once got caught with canabis etc.

[CrikeyKorea]

I don't want said people here either, I guess... but to which posts are you referring to?

[liveinkorea316]

Ever heard of the notion of someone "having done their time" or "having paid their debt to society"?

[kprrok]

[northway]

If China really wants to keep convicted felons out, they will. As of right now, they don't. This partially has to do with what China is willing to pay. The more roadblocks they put up, the more difficult it is for them to get teachers and thus the more they have to pay. The bottom line is that the countries that pay better put up more restrictions. There's nothing illegal about someone with a DUI moving to China to teach English (and chances are they won't be driving there anyway). I don't see what's wrong with telling someone that there is a place where there is a market for their services.

On the other hand, I understand where helping someone subvert international or domestic law is a problem, but saying "go to China" isn't suggesting that anyone break any laws.

[blackjack]

[cdninkorea]

[sentinel863]

[Kheldar]

[jamal0000]

I think it's a valid topic of discussion, especially with the new visa requirements being imposed shortly. Furthermore there is the question of how you define criminal.

We make the distinction between felonies and misdemeanors which isn't often understand by other cultures. Misdeameanors are minor violations that usually do no real harm to society such as a benign DUI, possession of a small amount of marijuana, and yes, even speeding tickets are technically classified as misdemeanors.

Felonies are reserved for more premeditated and heinous crimes, ranging from DUI's that cause serious injury to someone to theft, rape, and murder.

Within each category there are different classes of felonies and misdemeanors that vary state by state and locality by locality. The puishments vary, the ability to get it sealed varies, the diversion or deferrement options vary, and the enforcement varies (think marijuana possession in california verse indiana). It's a chaotic mess lacking standardization and unduly hurts people who usually just have a misdemeanor.

The criminal record checking process is an outdated scheme from past centuries and could contain extraneous items about arrests that were dropped. The solution I would say is to do what is done in the states if you want to purchase a firearm. The store clerk calls the fbi and they say a simple yes or no to the question of whether or not you are a convicted felon. It's simple and legitimate and is all anyone needs. You could simply add an option to get a certified statement containing the results of the check.

[some waygug-in]

So...you guys don't find the OP's username a bit...

shall we say, ironic considering the title and purpose of this thread?

[winterfall]

[Epik_Teacher]

[creeper1]

[Epik_Teacher]