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Grotto · Joined: 21 Mar 2004

they should pay us more Exclamation

J.B. Clamence · Joined: 15 Jan 2003

Did you just escape from North Korea? Did you not realize that this is how a capitalist society works?

Homer · Guest

Dude,

They own the hakwon. They want to make a profit as any businessperson would....

I don't see what the outrage is here.

Also just because you see them sitting around sometimes it does not mean they do nothing all the time...thinking that means you have tunnel vision. Wink

Saxiif · Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam

You can't complain too much if you get paid on time. Some of us aren't as lucky, cut my losses have gave the one month notice today Sad

Now we all get to wait and see how much money I get shafted out of...

Grotto · Joined: 21 Mar 2004

we should get some kind of bonus system for increases in class sizes and student numbers

Homer · Guest

Grotto....

You are hired as a teacher....teachers are not salesmen or share holders...they do not get paid per student.

If thats what you want then open up your own hakwon and see if you will be sitting on your butt doing nothing... Rolling Eyes

Finally your screw everyone attittude shows what kind of a bang up guy you are...well done Laughing

Ilsanman · Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea

Your boss does something. he/she risks for the business. He/she put up the capital to start the business. Have you been reading Karl Marx, by any chance?

If your boss is not violating the contract, you don't have a right to complain. Kids are rude at all hagwons. It's the nature of Korean brats and stupid parents who don't know how to teach their kids any manners.

shawner88 · Joined: 01 Feb 2003

I feel your anger. It's a cruel world. Those with cash make more cash while others toil for pennies. They greedy get greedier, that's the way it is. No sense in fighting it. Just save your money and you can be on the other end someday.

margaret · Joined: 14 Oct 2003

I'm curious. Where are you and what is the school?
Margaret Question

Grotto · Joined: 21 Mar 2004

[quote="Homer"]Dude,

They own the hakwon. They want to make a profit as any businessperson would....

I don't see what the outrage is here.

My outrage is that I am working harder, more hours etc. they changed the schedule 6 months into the contract making us work 4 and a half hours more than we were before with no extra compensation. They just said the way we figure it is you were only working 25 hours a week before. NEWS TO ME! Rolling Eyes

I went from what was a good schedule where I was paid overtime, to a schedule where I work 4 and a half more hours a week and get no overtime. Twisted Evil

I just think that a 'smart' businessman would look around and think of why all these students are here?, why they are staying?, especially considering the economy situation.

sadsac · Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: Gwangwang

If it is causing you this much angst, get out of there. From a schedule point of view and hours worked, what does your contract state. Has your director breached the terms of the contract, if not, then what is the beef. Next time negotiate the terms to which you will be satisfied to work. Smile

some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

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Grotto · Joined: 21 Mar 2004

Homer · Guest

Grotto...

I do not think what you mentionned about your daily activities is salesmanship...its teaching.

However, I can see your analogy...no worries.

Still the fact remains that even if you see yourself as a having to sell yourself everyday it does not entitle you to a salary based on how many students are in the school.
Perhaps the better word would have been shareholder or inverstor.
Your neither of these. You are a teacher. Hence you get paid a salary and not by the number of students.
Did you invest any money into the business? Did you contribute to the initial cash investement to start this business?
Did you pay some of the expenses of this business?.

Nope.Nope.Nope....hence you do not deserve one 10 won coin more then you earn as a teacher because the school has more kids then when you got there.

As stated by others, if they changed your contract without your agreement, take measures (of the legal kind).
Otherwise I don't see what you have to stand on.

Finally, I did not fall off a banana boat (how does one fall off such a boat anyway? Laughing

).
I landed here from an airplane...you know grotto, a-i-r-p-l-a-n-e...its those things with wings that fly in the sky...you see them when you are lying on your back in the field scratching your fleee infested head...oups was that an insult...nawww it was just a bit of back and forth...enjoy it?

Grotto · Joined: 21 Mar 2004

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