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machoman

Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: american teaching license |
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so, i graduated in 2006 with an art education degree. i was bartending at the time and didn't think i'd be teaching so i never applied for my license. i then got a job soon after with SMOE in the summer of 2007. i didn't need a license and my pay would've been the same without one so i left for korea without one. i should've gotten one, anyways, i am trying to apply for one in the state of virginia (where i'm from) but they now require an additional test that i didn't have to take when i was in school.
my question is, can i apply for a license in another state? does anyone know about this or have done this? |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:39 am Post subject: |
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You're gonna need to pass the Praxis exams for what ever area you want to be certified in. Each state is different.
In TN I graduated with a BS in SPED then took 4 different Praxis exams for my qualifications. I passed 3 of 4 and got my license. I need the 4th one to be highly qualified. |
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climber159

Joined: 02 Sep 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Here's the info on Massachusetts state licensure. It's quite a bit more involved that what you're thinking...I think. I'm nearly done, and I can certainly say that there's more to it than just taking a test. You'll also have to make sure that all your previous coursework and student teaching meets the state's requirements. And, then, the state department of education could still deny your request if you didn't do your teacher preparation program in the state you are seeking licensure.
http://www.doe.mass.edu/Educators/e_license.html?section=k12 |
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machoman

Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:14 am Post subject: |
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warmachinenkorea wrote: |
You're gonna need to pass the Praxis exams for what ever area you want to be certified in. Each state is different.
In TN I graduated with a BS in SPED then took 4 different Praxis exams for my qualifications. I passed 3 of 4 and got my license. I need the 4th one to be highly qualified. |
hmmm, i took the praxis I and II. they now require a "communication and literacy" test. sigh.... i'm kicking myself in the butt so hard right now.... |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Did you gradute from a education program and do student teaching? If not then most states are gonna require more course work and a certain amount of observed student teaching. Each state is different so you might wanna contact the state you wanna teach in.
I worked in the Educational Student Servies at my school as a workstudy and we had people come in all the time about changing majors or people that had graduated with a different degree and wanted to get into teaching. Most of the time they needed extra course work, mainly education courses on classroom management, educational psychology, teaching methods, etc... Then they would need to do student teaching. I knew an older guy who owned his own buisness (a dry cleaners) and had done it for years. He wanted to teach buisness but didn't want ot do the student teaching. He always said he didn't have time to take off from work and do student teaching. He was a school board member and a volunteer football and softball coach. He still wouldn't do the student teaching and they wouldn't consider him. There might be ways to do course work via the internet and then do your student teaching at an international school or the DODEA here. It won't hurt to ask. Good luck. |
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machoman

Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, i did student teaching, a full semester. first half at elementary, second half at high school, 8-4pm. i think virginia is pretty up to par with educational standards.
i'm just wondering if anyone else has gotten an education degree in one state and gotten their license in another and if so, how easy was it. but i guess it depends on state to state since they vary so much.
what was praxis 3 and 4 about?
anyways, thanks for the insight. |
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ReeseDog

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: Classified
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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I'm currently teaching in a state other than that in which I first obtained teaching credentials. I had to take the Praxis exams here, because my original state has its own exams and doesn't use the Praxis.
I say always get the creds when you can and keep them current. You'll never know when you might need them. |
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olsanairbase
Joined: 30 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Each state is different and has different requirements. Also each grade level has different tests. In California you need to pass MSAT if you want to teach at the elementary level. If you want to teach in a subject matter you can either qualify based on your coursework or by exam. If you have taken enough units in the subject you want to teach in you might be able to qualify to get an emergency credential. Then you can get into an intern program if you get a job and then work on your preliminary. After that you can then go for a provisional credential.
If you are ok working with kids with special needs then you can pretty much work anywhere since those teachers are in the highest demand right now. Also the gig is not as bad as people make it out to be because you usually will have two aides to help teach maybe 10 kids. Mild-Moderate is the way to go if you did that. Severe will test your patience. |
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machoman

Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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olsanairbase wrote: |
If you are ok working with kids with special needs then you can pretty much work anywhere since those teachers are in the highest demand right now. Also the gig is not as bad as people make it out to be because you usually will have two aides to help teach maybe 10 kids. Mild-Moderate is the way to go if you did that. Severe will test your patience. |
man.... i worked with special needs kids in art class when i student taught. like u said, it's easy because you have several aids working with you, but jesus, it was sad. one autistic kid kept hitting his mother. another kid had severe cerebal palsy and had little motor functions, so when we did art projects, we would put the paintbrush in his hand but we'd have to do the brush stroke for him. it was just really sad to see how low level functioning they were. [/b] |
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olsanairbase
Joined: 30 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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machoman wrote: |
olsanairbase wrote: |
If you are ok working with kids with special needs then you can pretty much work anywhere since those teachers are in the highest demand right now. Also the gig is not as bad as people make it out to be because you usually will have two aides to help teach maybe 10 kids. Mild-Moderate is the way to go if you did that. Severe will test your patience. |
man.... i worked with special needs kids in art class when i student taught. like u said, it's easy because you have several aids working with you, but jesus, it was sad. one autistic kid kept hitting his mother. another kid had severe cerebal palsy and had little motor functions, so when we did art projects, we would put the paintbrush in his hand but we'd have to do the brush stroke for him. it was just really sad to see how low level functioning they were. [/b] |
That sounds more like severe and/or Emotionally Disturbed or a smorgasbord which some districts do but is against the law
If you do mild/moderate an autistic kid like that would "misplaced" and you could have and should have (since that would be in the kid's interest) that kid transferred to another moderate-severe classroom.
If you want even a bit milder group try RSP as a resource specialist then you probably would be just dealing with hyperactive kids.
So far I've never met a Special Ed teacher not earn tenure no matter who they were. The need is that great. Also you can get into districts that are "closed" other than those openings. Plus, once you got tenure you get priority on openings in your district and you could transfer out after you did your 3 years and got tenured. |
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eb
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Just get an MBA instead. Thers alot more money and you can further with it on a long-term spectrum ( policy, law, banking etc).No tests or yearly license renewals either |
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D-Jay
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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eb wrote: |
Just get an MBA instead. Thers alot more money and you can further with it on a long-term spectrum ( policy, law, banking etc).No tests or yearly license renewals either |
The market is over-saturated with MBA's right now. Unless you graduate from a top-10 program, it's a fairly useless degree. You need a teaching license to become a teacher, and you need a law license to practice law, but you don't need an MBA to do anything business-related. It's not worth the mortgage-sized debt that most people wind up with. |
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olsanairbase
Joined: 30 Aug 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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D-Jay wrote: |
eb wrote: |
Just get an MBA instead. Thers alot more money and you can further with it on a long-term spectrum ( policy, law, banking etc).No tests or yearly license renewals either |
The market is over-saturated with MBA's right now. Unless you graduate from a top-10 program, it's a fairly useless degree. You need a teaching license to become a teacher, and you need a law license to practice law, but you don't need an MBA to do anything business-related. It's not worth the mortgage-sized debt that most people wind up with. |
Well said. And the same could be true for Law as well. If you don't go to one of the top Law Schools the same is true. |
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