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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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My girlfriend told me how she went to BCD (soondubu place) and saw a group of 4 white UCLA college girls scarfing the kimchi down and asking for more before their orders even came out. I wouldn't be surprised if they thought it was an appetizer. |
Ha! White females scarfing down kimchi. Sounds like a plot only the geniuses behind "Chatting with Beauties" could conjure up.
However, I agree Korean food is better in my hometown. Mainly due to fresher ingredients and larger portions of meat. |
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AmericanBornKorean
Joined: 08 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| reactionary wrote: |
| AmericanBornKorean wrote: |
My girlfriend told me how she went to BCD (soondubu place) and saw a group of 4 white UCLA college girls scarfing the kimchi down and asking for more before their orders even came out. I wouldn't be surprised if they thought it was an appetizer. |
Ha! White females scarfing down kimchi. Sounds like a plot only the geniuses behind "Chatting with Beauties" could conjure up.
However, I agree Korean food is better in my hometown. Mainly due to fresher ingredients and larger portions of meat. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| AmericanBornKorean wrote: |
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| redaxe wrote: |
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| I think Koreans have got to stop this promoting Koren food thing. Who cares if the rest of the world likes, or hates, Korean food. |
Why should they stop? Just because it's annoying? They want more tourists to visit Korea, and more opportunity to open Korean restaurants overseas, so they can make more money. I don't see why people find it strange that Koreans want their food to be popular. |
They shouldn't have to, who cares if foreigners like Korean food. All it matters is if Koreans like it. If a restaurant can't survive, so be it, it isn't because they aren't promoting Korean food enough. |
Are you an artistic type? Marketing and promotion = money. You need the goods to follow through, but you need the marketing and promotion for people to find it. |
It's mostly pointless, the only Korean foods that would appeal would be galbi or bibimbap. Just stick to the main ones, other foods most people will have no interest in. People don't want to dig bones out of their teeth or food, and that's what makes up a lot of Korean food, the flavours from the bone. |
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qcat79
Joined: 18 Aug 2006
Location: ROK
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| offtheoche wrote: |
Thai, Indian, Italian, Mediterranean, Mexican, Vietnamese, even Japanese food blows Korean food into oblivion. |
Japanese food is bland, small portions, and expensive. I can't stand eating Japanese food every day because nothing is spicy. And they put mayonnaise on EVERYTHING, blech! The only thing I like about it is the raw fish.
Korean food beats Japanese food in every category except noodles and raw fish.
The Vietnamese food I've had has been rather bland as well.
I love Indian food but I definitely could not eat it every day. Too hard to digest.
Thai and Italian food are great, Mexican and Chinese (not American Chinese, China Chinese) are the best IMHO. |
i couldn't have said any of this any better. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to go ahead and say that I am a Korean food connoisseur. I've had Korean food all around the world.
Here's the breakdown:
Naturally, in all the places I've had Korean food, Los Angeles and Seoul come out on top by a large margin. (Not too much experience outside of Seoul, sorry, I'm sure it's good).
In terms of pure quality, I would have to give it to LA here, especially in the K-BBQ arena. I would say that the produce is a lot better in California than in Korea.
I do, however, have to give the edge to Seoul for samgyupsal.
Where Seoul wins, hands down, is in variety. This is normal since there are more Korean customers so you can have many specialty places. You can't just find like a good "Kimchi jjigae" place in LA. You'd normally only eat that stuff at home anyway.
You can find good Korean food almost anywhere but it will cost you a pretty penny outside of the main Korean communities. Korean meals in Europe would cost me a good 15-20 EUR minimum.
As for NYC Korean food: Total, utter crap. Food on 32nd sucks and the places in Queens are just average. Actually food in NY sucks period in the $5-$20 range.
A note on Mexican food/K Food:
These guys are long lost brothers.
Mexicans and Koreans both enjoy hot, spicy meals. Especially soups/broths. Every single native Mexican I've introduced Korean food to has flipped out. And pretty much every Korean-American will list Mexican food amongst his top five. It's no wonder why Mex/Korean fusion is so huge in California and other parts.
In California, Korean restaurants almost solely employ Mexicans to work their kitchens. Quite possibly the best Korean cooks are Mexican. You'll often see them on their breaks scarfing down a big ass bowl of seollong tang or whatever, too.
Lots of culinary synergies possible here. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| I'm on my way to a Korean restaurant right now (I live in Chiang Mai). I want some Kimchi Jagae along with all the side dishes. Yum |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:14 am Post subject: |
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adapt certain Korean spices/concepts, even dishes into a "fusion" dish or concept?
sure! why not. Has already happened if not happening already.
but Korean cuisine on its own becoming a global sensation?
Hansik anyone?
most certainly not. Will never happen, for all the reasons that have already been mentioned. |
Well, if you think of it that way, no authentic ethnic food on its own ever really become a national sensation. If you look at just American fast food in other countries, they tailor it to the people of that country. Chinese, Japanese, Mexican, just about anything on its own would never become a global sensation. Fusion is the name of the game.
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/art/food/2009/03/24/201476/p1/Could-Korean.htm
New York, Los Angeles, Dallas, among the other cities I've been to, you see plenty of Westerners (non-Koreanophiles) mixed in the traditionally Korean-only frequented restaurants. Honestly, it's something that I have never seen before while growing up. This is why I think Korean food's popularity will only continue to grow, because it really has no where to go but up. |
not quite. Italian is pretty much an international sensation now (at least in the Western world). French has remained, especially among the food snobs (I've never found french food nearly as good as its reputation).
very large parts of Mexican cuisine have become very popular in the US.
this won't happen with Korea or its cuisine, but I will agree with you that more people will go out and 'try" and even like Korean food at a Korean restaurant stateside every once in a while or even with some regularity.
Trying out different ethnic foods has become an in/fashionable thing to do in the US, not only among young adults, but across the entire adult age spectrum. |
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rumdiary
Joined: 05 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| Vagabundo wrote: |
| AmericanBornKorean wrote: |
| Vagabundo wrote: |
adapt certain Korean spices/concepts, even dishes into a "fusion" dish or concept?
sure! why not. Has already happened if not happening already.
but Korean cuisine on its own becoming a global sensation?
Hansik anyone?
most certainly not. Will never happen, for all the reasons that have already been mentioned. |
Well, if you think of it that way, no authentic ethnic food on its own ever really become a national sensation. If you look at just American fast food in other countries, they tailor it to the people of that country. Chinese, Japanese, Mexican, just about anything on its own would never become a global sensation. Fusion is the name of the game.
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/art/food/2009/03/24/201476/p1/Could-Korean.htm
New York, Los Angeles, Dallas, among the other cities I've been to, you see plenty of Westerners (non-Koreanophiles) mixed in the traditionally Korean-only frequented restaurants. Honestly, it's something that I have never seen before while growing up. This is why I think Korean food's popularity will only continue to grow, because it really has no where to go but up. |
not quite. Italian is pretty much an international sensation now (at least in the Western world). French has remained, especially among the food snobs (I've never found french food nearly as good as its reputation).
very large parts of Mexican cuisine have become very popular in the US.
this won't happen with Korea or its cuisine, but I will agree with you that more people will go out and 'try" and even like Korean food at a Korean restaurant stateside every once in a while or even with some regularity.
Trying out different ethnic foods has become an in/fashionable thing to do in the US, not only among young adults, but across the entire adult age spectrum. |
I know in big cities there are restaurants where you can get a wide range of Mexican and Italian dishes. But 90% of what is consumed in the West is Americanized versions of a handful of dishes. The same can be said for nearly all ethnic food eaten in the West. The same thing will happen with Korean food. People will flock to Korean BBQ restaurants that don't serve samgyupsol or nangmeon. It's already happening. There's a Hanes T-shirt commercial where Charlie Sheen asks Michael Jordan out for Korean BBQ. Wolfgang Puck serves Korean tacos at his restaurant. I don't expect it to ever become as popular as Mexican or Chinese but it will continue to grow. |
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itistime
Joined: 23 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:07 am Post subject: |
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"In California, Korean restaurants almost solely employ Mexicans to work their kitchens. "
Most restaurants in Cali almost solely employ Mexicans. |
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itistime
Joined: 23 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| qcat79 wrote: |
| redaxe wrote: |
| offtheoche wrote: |
Thai, Indian, Italian, Mediterranean, Mexican, Vietnamese, even Japanese food blows Korean food into oblivion. |
Japanese food is bland, small portions, and expensive. I can't stand eating Japanese food every day because nothing is spicy. And they put mayonnaise on EVERYTHING, blech! The only thing I like about it is the raw fish.
Korean food beats Japanese food in every category except noodles and raw fish.
The Vietnamese food I've had has been rather bland as well.
I love Indian food but I definitely could not eat it every day. Too hard to digest.
Thai and Italian food are great, Mexican and Chinese (not American Chinese, China Chinese) are the best IMHO. |
i couldn't have said any of this any better. |
You're reading my mind. |
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rumdiary
Joined: 05 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| itistime wrote: |
"In California, Korean restaurants almost solely employ Mexicans to work their kitchens. "
Most restaurants in Cali almost solely employ Mexicans. |
According to Anthony Bourdain this is true of most restaurants in the U.S. |
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Kimchifart
Joined: 15 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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90% of Korean dishes are made like this:
1. Water in a pot.
2. Add red pepper paste.
3. Add a few vegetables (these are always the same vegetables)
4. Add your choice of meat.
5. Boil and serve. |
Mexican food consists of:
1. Beans
2. Rice
3. Meat
4. Tortilla
It can taste horrible. It can taste mind-blowingly good. To suggest that Korean food is all the same is as ignorant as saying all Mexican food is the same. |
Having cooked many Korean dishes, I have to say that it does usually come down to water, gochujang, stuff, boil the crap out of it. It is not
much of a cuisine. |
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lakeshow
Joined: 02 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Kimchifart wrote: |
| madoka wrote: |
| towl wrote: |
90% of Korean dishes are made like this:
1. Water in a pot.
2. Add red pepper paste.
3. Add a few vegetables (these are always the same vegetables)
4. Add your choice of meat.
5. Boil and serve. |
Mexican food consists of:
1. Beans
2. Rice
3. Meat
4. Tortilla
It can taste horrible. It can taste mind-blowingly good. To suggest that Korean food is all the same is as ignorant as saying all Mexican food is the same. |
Having cooked many Korean dishes, I have to say that it does usually come down to water, gochujang, stuff, boil the crap out of it. It is not
much of a cuisine. |
Not that different from mexican food then. It's pretty much meat, veggies, stuff, wrap it in a tortilla or sandwich to make a torta. But no one would dare say mexican food isn't "much of a cuisine". Same goes for vietnamese and japanese, which, imo, also lack variety despite being good |
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chellovek
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Korean food is nice enough, not sure how big a splash it will ever make in the wider world, but good luck to them, personally I hope they succeed. Wouldn't mind a wee samgyupsal place up the road from my maternal home.
On the other hand, reading previous posts, forgive my ignorance, what is American cooking?
I don't mean food brought in by immigrants, I mean homegrown. References to Vietnamese restuarants or Sudaneses restaurants don't count because they serve their own national cuisines, not American cuisine. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Korean food is nice enough, not sure how big a splash it will ever make in the wider world, but good luck to them, personally I hope they succeed. Wouldn't mind a wee samgyupsal place up the road from my maternal home.
On the other hand, reading previous posts, forgive my ignorance, what is American cooking?
I don't mean food brought in by immigrants, I mean homegrown. References to Vietnamese restuarants or Sudaneses restaurants don't count because they serve their own national cuisines, not American cuisine. |
good point. There is no "American" cooking, unless you want to count Thanksgiving dinner. There is also regional cuisine, in the south especially.. grits? etc
however, since it's a nation of immigrants, it should come as no surprise that the food is brought over by immigrants  |
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